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| fourstones | hey jon | 03:58 |
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| rejon | hey | 03:58 |
| rejon | thx for popping on | 03:58 |
| fourstones | so I poked at the site but just made it worse lol | 03:58 |
| rejon | yeah, i'm in total agreement with you | 03:58 |
| fourstones | so I don't know what's what up there | 03:59 |
| rejon | looks like it just doesn't see the gettext stuff | 03:59 |
| fourstones | I moved ccextras into a temp dir and did an update | 03:59 |
| fourstones | ...that didn't help | 03:59 |
| rejon | hmmm | 04:00 |
| fourstones | I'm going to refresh index.php so we can see the error msgs | 04:00 |
| rejon | ok | 04:01 |
| fourstones | yup Call to undefined function: bindtextdomain() | 04:01 |
| fourstones | should I hack in the stubs? | 04:02 |
| rejon | i added that stuff | 04:02 |
| fourstones | it's almost like the server is getting the wrong svn, is that possible? | 04:03 |
| rejon | hmmm | 04:03 |
| rejon | no, its on point | 04:04 |
| rejon | its fine | 04:04 |
| rejon | can i turn on debug mode | 04:08 |
| fourstones | yea, of course | 04:08 |
| fourstones | are you sure you added the stubs and checked them in? | 04:08 |
| rejon | y | 04:08 |
| fourstones | I just did a clean install and got Call to undefined function: _() | 04:08 |
| rejon | y | 04:08 |
| rejon | really | 04:09 |
| rejon | on apache? | 04:09 |
| fourstones | yea, windows apache | 04:09 |
| fourstones | is that stuff in language.php? | 04:09 |
| rejon | oh, the backup gettext stuff is in | 04:10 |
| rejon | cclib/php-gettext/gettext.php | 04:10 |
| rejon | called in index.php if the function gettext doesn't exist | 04:11 |
| fourstones | I just did a grep and didn't find a function called bindtextdomain there | 04:14 |
| fourstones | or _() | 04:14 |
| rejon | what | 04:15 |
| rejon | is the gettext not compiled into php for a4 | 04:16 |
| rejon | shit | 04:16 |
| fourstones | I'm checking that now | 04:16 |
| fourstones | doesn't look like it's there http://ccmixter.org/getpi.php | 04:17 |
| rejon | if gettext compiled, then _() is alias to gettext() | 04:17 |
| fourstones | right | 04:17 |
| fourstones | if it's not you have to alias it | 04:17 |
| rejon | y | 04:17 |
| rejon | not in there | 04:17 |
| rejon | i confirmed on my phpinfo() output, it has --with-gettext() | 04:17 |
| fourstones | I don't see it... | 04:17 |
| fourstones | './conhttp://ccmixter.org/getpi.php | 04:18 |
| fourstones | sorry, http://ccmixter.org/getpi.php | 04:19 |
| fourstones | it's not there | 04:19 |
| rejon | right, its not compiled into a4's php | 04:19 |
| fourstones | it's not in the default php | 04:19 |
| rejon | i mean i compared to my laptop which has it | 04:19 |
| rejon | y | 04:19 |
| rejon | agree | 04:19 |
| fourstones | got it lol | 04:19 |
| rejon | ok, so bug in the php-gettext | 04:19 |
| fourstones | or it's not designed that way | 04:20 |
| rejon | hmmm | 04:20 |
| fourstones | my suggestion for tomorrow: empty stubs | 04:20 |
| fourstones | do you mind if I copy that up to a4? | 04:22 |
| * paulproteus waves to rejon | 04:22 | |
| rejon | the stubs? | 04:22 |
| rejon | hi | 04:22 |
| fourstones | yea | 04:22 |
| rejon | go for it | 04:23 |
| rejon | although, i think can just add aliases to functions in gettext.inc | 04:23 |
| fourstones | and we're back up | 04:23 |
| rejon | agree | 04:23 |
| rejon | fast and wise | 04:23 |
| fourstones | you should fake out your laptop to pretend there's no gettext | 04:24 |
| fourstones | and then check that in | 04:24 |
| rejon | yeah, i will | 04:24 |
| fourstones | cool | 04:24 |
| fourstones | why aren't you on the way icommons? | 04:24 |
| rejon | i only committed that fix b4 test...bad me | 04:24 |
| rejon | y, in hotel now | 04:24 |
| rejon | up late | 04:24 |
| fourstones | lol | 04:24 |
| rejon | had to take care of a bunch of stuff | 04:24 |
| fourstones | ok, well, then just leave it the way it is | 04:25 |
| fourstones | and I'll be ginger with the site until you get back | 04:25 |
| rejon | no, i will hack on tomorrow... | 04:25 |
| rejon | i committed more to the site | 04:25 |
| rejon | i mean to cchost | 04:25 |
| rejon | for packaging etc | 04:25 |
| fourstones | plus you HAVE to make i18n work eh? | 04:26 |
| fourstones | kind of the point | 04:26 |
| rejon | was hoping to get a 2.9 before 3.0 out, but i think best to test, and get it all on point | 04:26 |
| fourstones | ok, well, I'll be up for a while if you need me, email | 04:26 |
| rejon | on your windows setup is gettext not built in as well? | 04:27 |
| rejon | because i don't get errors on my linux setup (i bet is same issue) | 04:27 |
| fourstones | yes, gettext is not part of the default install package | 04:28 |
| fourstones | I never build php | 04:29 |
| rejon | its not even an option to shut off on my gentoo anymore...whoa...used to be | 04:29 |
| fourstones | http://php.net/gettext | 04:30 |
| rejon | y | 04:30 |
| fourstones | you'll have to fake in code i guess | 04:30 |
| rejon | y | 04:31 |
| rejon | still some stuff is jacked up on the site | 04:49 |
| rejon | i don't think everything is synced still | 04:54 |
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| fourstones | hey jon, are you workin on mixter? | 05:20 |
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| fourstones | hey jon, you still up? | 05:54 |
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| Jedi_ | hi nathany, can you provide some MD5sum of ccPublisher-2.2.1.0-setup.exe ? | 16:15 |
| nathany | jedi_: uh... yeah, give me a second | 16:16 |
| Jedi_ | my download seems never work, so i wanna check it | 16:16 |
| nathany | does the installer run at all? | 16:16 |
| Jedi_ | no | 16:16 |
| nathany | crap | 16:16 |
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| nathany | jedi_: right, sorry | 16:27 |
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| froud | hi, can one take work under cc-by, rework the release in print without releasing the source? I am not sure from the license explanation. | 18:22 |
| paulproteus | What do you mean "source"/ | 18:23 |
| paulproteus | ? | 18:23 |
| paulproteus | If you mean the original author's name, it seems to me that you're missing the point of "attribution". | 18:24 |
| froud | If a work (text) is written in a format | 18:24 |
| froud | If you acknowledge the original author | 18:24 |
| froud | But the source is edited and then reproduced in print | 18:25 |
| froud | must that source be made available again | 18:25 |
| paulproteus | It seems you're describing creating a derviative work. I think that the CC attribution license allows what you're describing. | 18:25 |
| paulproteus | So long as you cite the original author, I think that's all you have to do. | 18:26 |
| paulproteus | Have you looked at the "human-readable deed"? | 18:26 |
| froud | SO if the license is CC-BY-SA 2.5 I can download the original source files, make a derivative and reproduce in print form only, without making the derivative source available? | 18:27 |
| froud | Yes I have | 18:27 |
| froud | but it is not clear on that, or I just dont understand | 18:27 |
| paulproteus | Well, now you added "share alike". | 18:27 |
| froud | Sorry | 18:27 |
| paulproteus | Can you give me the URL to the license you're talking about? | 18:27 |
| froud | http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/ | 18:28 |
| paulproteus | froud, from the top: | 18:28 |
| paulproteus | You are free: | 18:29 |
| paulproteus | * to copy, distribute, display, and perform the work | 18:29 |
| paulproteus | * to make derivative works | 18:29 |
| paulproteus | Share Alike. If you alter, transform, or build upon this work, you may distribute the resulting work only under a license identical to this one. | 18:29 |
| paulproteus | What's unclear? | 18:29 |
| froud | That I undersatnd | 18:29 |
| froud | my question is that in making the derivative | 18:29 |
| paulproteus | So the question is, do you have to give out copies of the original? | 18:29 |
| paulproteus | No, you don't. | 18:29 |
| paulproteus | Nothing here says you do. | 18:29 |
| froud | copies of the derivative source? | 18:29 |
| froud | orig doc > driv doc > print dist | 18:30 |
| paulproteus | froud, Use a complete sentence. You're confusing me. | 18:30 |
| froud | no src available | 18:30 |
| froud | sorry | 18:30 |
| paulproteus | Who cares about source? | 18:30 |
| paulproteus | Where in the license does it refer to source? | 18:30 |
| * paulproteus checks the legal code | 18:31 | |
| froud | Well since it was the source that was made available under that license I am assuming that it is a derivative source that must be released under the same license | 18:31 |
| froud | but | 18:31 |
| froud | am I under obligation to release the derivative source | 18:31 |
| paulproteus | You can make derivative works. There's no idea of "source" in Creative Commons licenses. | 18:31 |
| paulproteus | froud, Do you come from a software background? | 18:32 |
| froud | yes this is what confuses me | 18:32 |
| froud | yes | 18:32 |
| paulproteus | froud, Look. | 18:32 |
| paulproteus | Forget what you know about the GPL and "source". | 18:32 |
| paulproteus | It's not relevant here. | 18:32 |
| paulproteus | Once you've forgotten that, read through http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/ . | 18:32 |
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| paulproteus | It's simple enough. You can make whatever derivative works you want, so long as if you distribute them, you have to distribute them under the same license (cc-by-sa 2.5). | 18:33 |
| froud | paulproteus: this I have done and is why I came to get clarification | 18:33 |
| paulproteus | Okay. (-: | 18:33 |
| paulproteus | So seeing what I've said, can you answer your own question now? | 18:33 |
| froud | OK I understand that even if the source is the object licensed I do not have to make it available | 18:33 |
| paulproteus | The question of, "Do you have to distribute the full source text of the original document?" | 18:33 |
| paulproteus | You're missing the point. | 18:34 |
| paulproteus | You don't have to make *anything* of the other guy's available. | 18:34 |
| paulproteus | Source, object, binary, cucumber. | 18:34 |
| paulproteus | Nothing. (-: | 18:34 |
| froud | correct | 18:34 |
| paulproteus | Great. (-: | 18:34 |
| froud | that stays where it is | 18:34 |
| froud | paulproteus: patience with me please, I am a only programmer | 18:35 |
| paulproteus | Now, let me mention that I'm not a lawyer, but I do think I have a pretty good (layman's) understanding of the CC and GNU licenses. | 18:35 |
| paulproteus | froud, It's okay, I am a programmer too. | 18:35 |
| paulproteus | That's why I asked the question. | 18:35 |
| froud | just be to sure I understand you then | 18:35 |
| paulproteus | (BTW, even with the GPL, you are in no obligation to distribute *other people*'s source. Only yours if you include other people's GPL work.) | 18:36 |
| froud | well that is my question | 18:36 |
| froud | my derivative source does not have to be downloadable | 18:37 |
| froud | Do I have to distribute the source of my derivative work? | 18:37 |
| froud | not the other peoples source | 18:37 |
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| paulproteus | You keep talking about "source". | 18:38 |
| paulproteus | Why? | 18:38 |
| froud | my new source derived from the other peoples work | 18:38 |
| paulproteus | The CC licenses don't mention it. | 18:38 |
| froud | exactly, hence my confusion | 18:38 |
| froud | ok step-by-step | 18:38 |
| paulproteus | froud, Let me give you an example of something that I belive is allowed: | 18:39 |
| froud | there is a document in xml and the source is licensed under cc-by-sa | 18:39 |
| paulproteus | Great. For demonstration purposes, I'll say it's Alice's work. | 18:39 |
| froud | I download it | 18:39 |
| froud | rework it | 18:39 |
| froud | I print and distribute | 18:39 |
| froud | the license remains intact and original is acknowledged | 18:40 |
| froud | but I dont make the new derivative available for download | 18:40 |
| paulproteus | Sounds great. And do you clearly state on the printed distribution that the printed thing is available for re-use under CC-by-sa? | 18:40 |
| paulproteus | froud, "available for download" is *not* a part of CC. | 18:40 |
| froud | OK that is good for me | 18:40 |
| froud | So if a person wished to photo copy they may but under the same license | 18:41 |
| paulproteus | Yes. | 18:41 |
| paulproteus | And your obligation to Alice is now complete. | 18:41 |
| paulproteus | You have no obligation to the people who receive your work, unlike the "source code download" provision of GPL. | 18:41 |
| paulproteus | Now I think you understand. (-: Do you think so? | 18:43 |
| froud | paulproteus: yes, now it is clearer | 18:47 |
| froud | thanks | 18:47 |
| paulproteus | froud, Glad to have helped! (-: | 18:47 |
| froud | bye | 18:47 |
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| paulproteus | I wonder how that could have been easier. | 18:47 |
| nathany | jedi_: 2e8f1c96433476668dd4eb511a16dc4d | 19:27 |
| * Jedi_ is now waiting for corrected version :p | 19:29 | |
| nathany | jedi_: new version uploaded... md5 checks out | 19:51 |
| Jedi_ | cool | 19:52 |
| Jedi_ | I put that md5 on wiki | 19:55 |
| Jedi_ | md5 match, try installing | 19:56 |
| paulproteus | nathany, Hey, does ccPublisher work on ReactOS? (-; | 19:59 |
| nathany | does anything? | 19:59 |
| nathany | (just kidding) | 19:59 |
| nathany | no idea | 19:59 |
| * paulproteus chuckles | 19:59 | |
| Jedi_ | nathany: hum, bad news. my "How does this work" button don't work at all in 2.2.1.0 | 19:59 |
| nathany | jedi_: so i guess the answer is "poorly" :) | 20:00 |
| nathany | does the localization show correctly? | 20:00 |
| Jedi_ | :o | 20:00 |
| Jedi_ | localization show correctly. I'm testing now | 20:00 |
| Jedi_ | hum | 20:00 |
| Jedi_ | "Metadata helps others to find your works." keep not te be translated :-/ | 20:01 |
| nathany | is that string in the catalog? (do you remember?) | 20:01 |
| nathany | (i can look...) | 20:01 |
| Jedi_ | i don't remember | 20:01 |
| nathany | it is... | 20:02 |
| nathany | i'll look into it... | 20:02 |
| Jedi_ | And the "How does this work?" button.... I press it, no response, no any window popup | 20:04 |
| nathany | jedi_: found the bug, comitting the fix, so it'll get rolled into 2.2.2 (whenever that is) | 20:04 |
| nathany | found the "metadata helps..." bug, that is | 20:04 |
| Jedi_ | sure | 20:04 |
| nathany | i'll take a look @ "how does this..." | 20:04 |
| Jedi_ | ok | 20:04 |
| Jedi_ | hum, there is another problem I should report earlier. I'll write you mail tonight. | 20:06 |
| nathany | ok, sounds good... serious? | 20:08 |
| Jedi_ | it's language related | 20:09 |
| nathany | ok... shoot me an email | 20:11 |
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