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| tannewt | hi all | 00:39 |
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| paulproteus | Hey now. | 00:41 |
| tannewt | how are things paulproteus | 00:46 |
| paulproteus | tannewt, Pretty good. | 00:47 |
| paulproteus | I just discovered a really cool app. | 00:47 |
| paulproteus | http://zesty.ca/zest/ | 00:47 |
| * tannewt looks | 00:52 | |
| tannewt | hmm | 00:53 |
| paulproteus | If you're wondering what to look at, do this: | 00:53 |
| paulproteus | Click for sample output. | 00:53 |
| paulproteus | Click on the top thread. | 00:53 |
| tannewt | right | 00:53 |
| paulproteus | Look in the left side. Move your mouse around. | 00:53 |
| tannewt | ok... | 00:53 |
| paulproteus | Once you have selected 'Renaming "capability'", do you see the thread summary on the left? | 00:53 |
| paulproteus | Now click the word "ben" on the right side. | 00:53 |
| paulproteus | Do you see the coolness? | 00:54 |
| paulproteus | Maybe I'm just more easily impressed or something. But I think it's really great to slice through mailing list discussions this way. | 00:54 |
| tannewt | right, it highlights the previous parts from prior emails | 00:54 |
| paulproteus | More importantly, if you're looking at an emaill, you can see precisely where people replied. | 00:55 |
| tannewt | right | 00:55 |
| paulproteus | And if you mouseover the names, it shows you what they said. | 00:55 |
| tannewt | yeah | 00:57 |
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| paulproteus | Mornin', y'all. | 16:22 |
| rejon | mornin | 16:22 |
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| paulproteus | bovinity, Sometime (probably after lunch) I have one last HTML question for you, and it's an IE compatibility thing. | 18:26 |
| paulproteus | There's one more backend thing for me to do before lunch. | 18:26 |
| paulproteus | I've tried just brute-forcing it with applying IE7 <http://dean.edwards.name/IE7/> but that was no use. | 18:27 |
| paulproteus | Sadly. | 18:27 |
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| bovinity | yay ie! | 18:31 |
| bovinity | :( | 18:31 |
| paulproteus | It's just that on http://192.168.103.55/nc-survey/trunk/nc-mia/nc.html , after you click "Next", the sliding boxes are too wide. | 18:33 |
| paulproteus | Note that this is a link to trunk.... | 18:34 |
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| * tannewt hates javascript | 18:45 | |
| paulproteus | tannewt, I'm hacking JS myself. | 18:45 |
| paulproteus | I hope you won't hold that against me any more than I personally do. | 18:45 |
| paulproteus | Which I believe is enough for both of us. | 18:45 |
| tannewt | lol | 18:46 |
| tannewt | I'm doing autoupdating forms | 18:46 |
| * tannewt likes PHP | 18:48 | |
| paulproteus | mlinksva, Well, I think everything we talked about (except for the layout of the <textarea> at the end, and a small IE layout bug) is done. | 18:53 |
| paulproteus | mlinksva, I was really hoping I'd get this far or farther before meeting with Lessig at noon. (-: | 18:53 |
| tannewt | you taunter | 18:55 |
| tannewt | :-( | 18:55 |
| bovinity | paulproteus: you may want to consider css styling the width of the textarea instead of usings its cols attribute | 18:56 |
| mlinksva | paulproteus, excellent | 18:56 |
| paulproteus | tannewt, Oh, lol, sorry. (-: | 18:56 |
| tannewt | I'm wondering more because its webbased, hmm | 18:57 |
| tannewt | ;-) | 18:57 |
| mlinksva | js is way more interesting than php | 18:57 |
| paulproteus | Thanks, mlinksva. (-: | 18:57 |
| paulproteus | Oh, and the trivial PHP DB inserter also works. | 18:57 |
| tannewt | mlinksva, its frustrating cause I dont know it | 18:58 |
| paulproteus | tannewt, You must try using Firebug to debug JS. | 18:59 |
| tannewt | I like python and PHP | 18:59 |
| paulproteus | tannewt, You traitor! | 18:59 |
| tannewt | I'm just giving up on the js, I'm too inefficient | 18:59 |
| paulproteus | Anyway, you just put a breakpoint in your code where you're about to start writing, write up your JS on the evaluator tab. | 18:59 |
| tannewt | I've never done it | 18:59 |
| paulproteus | And http://www.squarefree.com/shell/ gives you an interactive window, Python style, for JS in a document. | 19:00 |
| paulproteus | The bookmarklet is the way to go with that. | 19:00 |
| paulproteus | (FWIW, mlinksva, the OSAF Scooby guys recommended the second link to me. They've been a tremendous help.) | 19:00 |
| tannewt | :-| | 19:03 |
| tannewt | I just want to get on the road | 19:03 |
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| paulproteus | Hi nathany. | 20:22 |
| nathany | hey paulproteus | 20:23 |
| bovinity | sounds like howler monkies outside | 20:24 |
| bovinity | hm, wrong window | 20:24 |
| rejon | hi | 21:04 |
| rejon | sounds like my home | 21:04 |
| paulproteus | Sounds like my home window. | 21:05 |
| paulproteus | nathany, How feasible would it be to get wpLicense upstream in WP? | 21:19 |
| paulproteus | Also, you're the author of the tot app, right? | 21:19 |
| paulproteus | I totally hacked it up into something you'd never recognize. | 21:19 |
| bovinity | paulproteus: dana wrote the tot code | 21:21 |
| bovinity | the current incarnation you hacked up, at least | 21:21 |
| paulproteus | bovinity, Got a minute for that IE thing? | 21:21 |
| paulproteus | Ah, okay. | 21:21 |
| rejon | using prototype.js? | 21:23 |
| bovinity | aye | 21:24 |
| bovinity | the tot app could do with porting to the prototype api | 21:24 |
| rejon | yeah, gotta standardize on that shizzle | 21:31 |
| rejon | paulproteus is the speed committer | 21:31 |
| bovinity | prorotype has made my JS life far less hellish | 21:31 |
| paulproteus | Commit early, commit often. | 21:31 |
| rejon | good, good ;) our evil plan works | 21:32 |
| paulproteus | To be honest, I haven't used prototype at all. | 21:32 |
| rejon | yeah, its nice for standardizing ajax stuff for all browsers | 21:32 |
| rejon | and other js things | 21:32 |
| paulproteus | But this is the first JS project I've really done, so I figured it would at least be instructive to see what things were actually like the first time. | 21:32 |
| paulproteus | Now I have to work around another DOM brokenness of IE, and then I'll ping mlinksva. | 21:33 |
| bovinity | $("") instead of Document.getElementById is worth it alone! | 21:33 |
| paulproteus | Egad, that's pretty cool. | 21:33 |
| rejon | yeah, paulproteus don't hesitate to cut corners | 21:33 |
| rejon | no need to reinvent the wheel | 21:33 |
| bovinity | rejon: when are yo leaving for rio? | 21:34 |
| rejon | wed | 21:34 |
| rejon | i'll be in tomorrow, but probably not wed | 21:34 |
| rejon | have jen and others left? | 21:34 |
| bovinity | jen and mia leave tomorrow | 21:35 |
| rejon | ok | 21:35 |
| nathany | paulproteus: haven't thought about upstreaming wpLicense into WP | 21:36 |
| nathany | I can email the dev list about it post-Rio | 21:36 |
| paulproteus | MediaWiki prompts for license out of the box, and it'd be pretty cool if WP would do something similar. | 21:36 |
| rejon | yeah...there is wp-cc which does cc licensing | 21:36 |
| nathany | wp-cc? | 21:37 |
| rejon | i tried wp-cc-configurator as well...its shit | 21:37 |
| paulproteus | Isn't wp-cc that FirasD's 1.5-only plugin? | 21:37 |
| rejon | no | 21:37 |
| rejon | it works | 21:37 |
| paulproteus | http://firasd.org/studio/wp/wp-cc/ is what I'm thinking of. | 21:37 |
| rejon | yeah, they should include that in wordpress | 21:37 |
| rejon | hmmm...probably can get them to include it | 21:37 |
| paulproteus | Appaers to be in http://dev.wp-plugins.org/browser/wp-cc/ or something. | 21:37 |
| paulproteus | But I'm pretty confused about the whole situtation, to be honest. | 21:38 |
| rejon | ;) | 21:38 |
| rejon | it works | 21:38 |
| nathany | http://firasd.org/studio/wp/wp-cc/ points people to wpLicense at the top | 21:38 |
| rejon | hahahaha | 21:38 |
| paulproteus | See also my confusion. | 21:38 |
| rejon | hahahaha | 21:39 |
| rejon | looks like nathan's code rules | 21:39 |
| nathany | duh | 21:39 |
| nathany | ;) | 21:39 |
| rejon | it would be great for them to include by default...but yeah, more time... | 21:40 |
| rejon | my ac adaptor cable got cut and then melted the cable only... | 21:43 |
| rejon | what is the best option: a.) buy new one ($50) or b.) repair myself or c.) have someone else repair it | 21:43 |
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| rejon | ? | 21:52 |
| paulproteus | I don't see why you can't keep using it. | 21:53 |
| rejon | no, the cable is severed basically | 21:53 |
| paulproteus | Oh. | 21:53 |
| paulproteus | Hmm. | 21:53 |
| rejon | buy it... | 21:53 |
| paulproteus | I'd replace it. | 21:53 |
| paulproteus | Yeah. I don't fool with electicity all that often. | 21:53 |
| paulproteus | Of course, that's why I'm not an EE. I have friends that do. | 21:54 |
| paulproteus | mlinksva, Mostly-trivial question: Do you want form submission to happen in the background asynchronously too? | 22:05 |
| paulproteus | Or do you want the normal model of submit submits the form, then redirects you to a "Thanks" page? | 22:06 |
| paulproteus | The latter is what I have written, just so you know. | 22:06 |
| paulproteus | Everything works in IE and Firefox, and I'm now grasping at straws for things to finish. (-: | 22:06 |
| paulproteus | So, nathany, if someone emails info@cc and asks, "How do I CC license text on my WordPress blog?" I should answer with a link to your thing, right? (-: | 22:21 |
| nathany | yup | 22:21 |
| rejon | isn't info@cc mia? | 22:21 |
| paulproteus | rejon, Yeah, but she's been gracious enough to the interns to allow us to share the fun. | 22:22 |
| rejon | yeah | 22:22 |
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| mlinksva | paulproteus synchronous is fine for the final submit | 22:50 |
| paulproteus | mlinksva, Should the email on submit give all the details of the form submission, or just "Hey, someone submitted a form"? | 22:59 |
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| mlinksva | paulproteus, all details. i hate emails that make you click to see what you could be shown up front | 23:03 |
| paulproteus | Duly noted. (-: | 23:03 |
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