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| zwnj | mlinksva: hi | 17:37 |
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| zwnj | mlinksva: just want to ask about the page about difference of license versions... | 18:10 |
| zwnj | i think you said that you did it some way | 18:10 |
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| mlinksva | zwnj, some brief references are at http://wiki.creativecommons.org/License_versions emphasis on brief | 21:16 |
| zwnj | mlinksva: thanks :) | 21:23 |
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| mlinksva | anyone, rejon in particular, please glance over http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Summer_of_Code_2006 (i'm done with edits) to make sure nothing is missing or wrong. thx | 22:32 |
| rejon | (doing and already made some edits) | 22:32 |
| * pygi also looks ツ | 22:33 | |
| rejon | ;) | 22:33 |
| * poningru also looks | 22:33 | |
| pygi | mlinksva: oh, yes...any news about cd? :> | 22:33 |
| poningru | oh man I should do one of those things | 22:33 |
| rejon | yeah, totally...everyone submit | 22:34 |
| rejon | and add other ideas to the wiki | 22:34 |
| rejon | pygi: what is CD? | 22:34 |
| pygi | rejon: the live cd thingy ツ | 22:34 |
| rejon | aha.. | 22:34 |
| rejon | that one really needs a solid proposal and some research | 22:34 |
| rejon | I'm really into that one | 22:34 |
| rejon | I think it would also be great to develop some wrapper up cd option | 22:35 |
| pygi | so, basicly, you are doing the live cd? | 22:35 |
| rejon | that is not even livecd, but has all cc software and up to the normal cd limit with cool content for remixing, etc | 22:35 |
| mlinksva | three edits in a minute after i finished, impressive rejon, but i can't tell what the changes are. line-oriented diffs suck. need to luck for something better for mediawiki. | 22:35 |
| rejon | pygi: no, I'm just saying, whoever wants to write a proposal for that one should really be clear about what is out there, etc | 22:35 |
| pygi | ah, perhaps you should help me write a proposal then =P | 22:36 |
| rejon | i really want to work on mediawiki...I want export formats to it...particularly docbook! anyone could write collaborative research papers and then convert into any format! | 22:36 |
| rejon | of course...please email us any proposals and we can give pointers | 22:36 |
| mlinksva | pygi, we talked about this more the last day. it looks like there are at least two people who want to do a livecd (including you). right now unless we get multiple super high quality livecd proposals we'd probably only recommend that google accept one | 22:37 |
| rejon | asking questions is one of the greatest ways to insure that we know you are serious | 22:37 |
| mlinksva | that said yours could end up being the best livecd proposal :) | 22:37 |
| rejon | agree... | 22:37 |
| mlinksva | feel free to ask for feedback as you write it | 22:37 |
| pygi | mlinksva: lemme rather find something else then , not to get on the way to the first one who wants to do this | 22:38 |
| rejon | that is good... | 22:39 |
| rejon | I hope google gives us a bunch of spots | 22:39 |
| rejon | good that we have chris dibona talking at the CC Salon on MAY 10, right after the deadline for submissions | 22:39 |
| pygi | ツ | 22:40 |
| pygi | this seems rather funny as a project :-/ | 22:42 |
| pygi | Photos: this would create some basic graphical overlay to the image, or basic html wrappers around the content that says author name, license (url). | 22:42 |
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| mlinksva | pygi, yeah that attributor one needs to be fleshed out more, it's rejon's idea :) | 22:43 |
| mlinksva | rejon, yeah i'm posting to the blog now and am including a mention of the dibona coincidence :) | 22:44 |
| pygi | media mixing seems nice, and I was already thinking about writing it (C backend engine, C# frontend), but that would require much more then 3 months | 22:44 |
| rejon | :) | 22:44 |
| rejon | check out the new idea I posted | 22:44 |
| mlinksva | c# is cool for the backend | 22:44 |
| rejon | to the LiveCD section | 22:44 |
| pygi | mlinksva: well, I will go with C (I'll do that app regardless of SoC) because GST is C | 22:45 |
| pygi | don't wanna write wrappers and such | 22:45 |
| pygi | most ideally, python would be the language of choice, but heh ツ | 22:45 |
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| pygi | rejon: how long do I have to make that attributor project? gimme like 10 minutes, ok? ツ | 22:46 |
| rejon | hahaha | 22:46 |
| rejon | I have an example script I need to post for that one | 22:46 |
| pygi | and that 10 minutes includes me eating first =P | 22:46 |
| rejon | ok...I dare you...c'mon | 22:47 |
| pygi | anyone, if you have any nice coding suggestions outside that page, please say it ツ | 22:47 |
| pygi | anyway* | 22:47 |
| mlinksva | what the attributors' capaiblities need to be need to be spelled out. maybe drop that one from the list until it is clear that it is a summer-length project? | 22:47 |
| pygi | mlinksva: well, 1 second per day for entire summe? ツ | 22:48 |
| pygi | summer* | 22:48 |
| rejon | I just made those as soundbytes for bigger projects | 22:48 |
| rejon | pygi: do you have any ideas how to expand that one then? | 22:48 |
| pygi | well, for example make up and integrate concept of video signing ツ | 22:48 |
| pygi | with url, name, info ツ | 22:49 |
| pygi | but hidden ツ | 22:49 |
| pygi | that takes more then 10 minutes :P | 22:49 |
| pygi | also, the "mixing" thingy is nice, but at least two people need to work on that together to make even a basic version out by the end of SoC | 22:49 |
| rejon | Can you add your ideas to the wiki? | 22:51 |
| rejon | that would help much | 22:52 |
| pygi | well, I am not sure two people can work on one project ツ | 22:52 |
| pygi | can they? | 22:52 |
| rejon | well, you could break it into two projects and submit both of those | 22:53 |
| rejon | the projects are not group by nature...see the rules | 22:53 |
| pygi | I know that for some organisations, two people worked on one project | 22:53 |
| pygi | and how am I supposed to add ideas when page is locked? :P | 22:55 |
| pygi | ah,mail | 22:55 |
| rejon | create login/pass | 22:56 |
| mlinksva | pygi, you have to register and confirm to edit | 22:56 |
| pygi | rejon: did that | 22:56 |
| pygi | mlinksva: forgot to confirm registration ツ | 22:56 |
| pygi | mlinksva, rejon: please check it out | 23:02 |
| pygi | if you are still alive that is ツ | 23:03 |
| rejon | y | 23:03 |
| rejon | I just added a bunch to the attributor one | 23:03 |
| pygi | there is no need for video editing app, considering Diva project is out there ツ | 23:03 |
| pygi | rejon: well, to see the Audio editing thingy? | 23:04 |
| pygi | under the Media mixing | 23:05 |
| pygi | I am currently working on one such app (C backend, C# frontend) so at least I know a lill' what I am talking about ツ | 23:05 |
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| rejon | pygi: check your formatting on the wiki ;) | 23:08 |
| pygi | rejon: yes, blame MediaWiki ツ | 23:08 |
| mlinksva | pygi, the formatting doesn't really work, can you fix that? it looks too big of a project to me, but feel free to convince otheriwse in proposals. needs to include what the cc angle is too. | 23:08 |
| pygi | mlinksva: well, I won't apply for that =P That was just a proposal to you =P | 23:09 |
| mlinksva | some kind of cc suport in diva would be great :) | 23:09 |
| pygi | like what? | 23:10 |
| pygi | perhaps we can make something out ツ | 23:10 |
| pygi | btw. formatting is fixed...kind of :P | 23:11 |
| mlinksva | i radically generalized the addition. proposals can get specific about languages/libraries used, this page is really just for spurring ideas. | 23:15 |
| pygi | oki,doki | 23:15 |
| rejon | http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Sample_Pool_API | 23:16 |
| pygi | "suppoort or" ツ | 23:16 |
| pygi | add support for exporting cc material = just add a translucent logo down right corner of exported video (diva) | 23:18 |
| rejon | I think that most authors will not like that | 23:19 |
| rejon | plus, there is legality to how this is done | 23:19 |
| rejon | mlinksva: do you know the link for what has to be included in offline works? | 23:19 |
| rejon | Ideally, this type of attributor would need to impact a creative work as little as possible | 23:19 |
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| pygi | okay, anyway... | 23:27 |
| pygi | talk to you later | 23:27 |
| mlinksva | rejon, http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#Can_I_apply_a_Creative_Commons_license_to_an_offline_work.3F | 23:33 |
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| rejon | thx | 23:43 |
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