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| rejon | @uptime | 01:44 |
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| cchelpbot | rejon: I have been running for 1 day, 2 hours, 29 minutes, and 39 seconds. | 01:44 |
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| waglo | New news from ccblog: #cc chat <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5767> | 05:40 |
| rejon | Let's see how long it takes our bot to pick up the new entry ;) | 05:41 |
| cchelpbot | New news from http://creativecommons.org/weblog/rss: #cc chat <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5767> | 05:51 |
| rejon | yeah!!!!!!!!!!! | 05:51 |
| kfish | heh | 05:53 |
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| endico | http://flickr.com/photos/candiedwomanire/15899841/ | 08:19 |
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| mlinksva | cool sticker remix endico | 08:53 |
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| Plasson | hey | 08:59 |
| mlinksva | hi | 08:59 |
| Plasson | :) just read the blogpost | 09:00 |
| Plasson | what's up here? | 09:00 |
| mlinksva | pretty quiet right now. i am about to sleep myself. endico posted a cool sticker remix http://flickr.com/photos/candiedwomanire/15899841/ | 09:01 |
| Plasson | hehe nice | 09:02 |
| Plasson | where are most of you from? | 09:02 |
| mlinksva | cc has a small staff (including me and rejon in the channel right now) in san francisco, others are round the world | 09:03 |
| Plasson | oh! San Francisco <3 lovely | 09:06 |
| Plasson | I should be there in June | 09:06 |
| Plasson | I'm from Italy, by the way | 09:06 |
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| shomon | just to get some conversation going here... I've had trouble with the ethics of depending on sites like the internet archive for hosting of cc licensed works. Is there some kind of project going on to try and solve the problem of storage? | 13:00 |
| bkhl | The ethics? | 13:01 |
| shomon | well yes I was just thinking that the archive for example could turn around in a while and say it can't host cc works for free, or it could start to be funded by some company that doesn't have good ethical standards (not to rubbish the archive! just an example!) | 13:05 |
| bkhl | So you just mean there should be more than one archive? | 13:06 |
| shomon | does that make sense? Hope I'm explaining that properly! | 13:06 |
| bkhl | Sure. | 13:08 |
| bkhl | But I guess most creators will keep their own copies, even when they have submitted their work to the archive. | 13:08 |
| shomon | yes, natural, it's more to ensure availability. I guess if there was the need to create a distributed storage solution then it would get done... | 13:09 |
| bkhl | Maybe FreeNET/GnuNET? | 13:10 |
| shomon | yeah, although for the casual web punters they'd have to be able to get to stuff via simple URLs | 13:11 |
| bkhl | There could be web/bittorrent front ends for the P2P protocol. | 13:13 |
| shomon | sounds good. Also mainstream music ppl tend to buy webspace and believe that's the only way to host more stuff, so it's raising awareness that they can do it using their own computer connections rather than signing up... | 13:15 |
| NathanY | shomon: I don't think that's a realistic concern given the Archive's articles of incorporation as a not-for-profit... | 13:15 |
| NathanY | but we are adding the ability to ccPublisher 2 to easily allow other | 13:15 |
| NathanY | providers to add support for their backends | 13:15 |
| NathanY | so perhaps we'll get a generic FTP/SFTP backend so that people can self-host directly to their webhost if they like, etc | 13:15 |
| NathanY | does that make sense? | 13:15 |
| bkhl | Maybe. | 13:16 |
| shomon | yeah - sounds useful. a few people I know want to release remix/collab works but as they don't know or trust CC licenses they just do it directly on their own web hosts. | 13:17 |
| bkhl | It might make even more sense to just have a backend that uploads stuff properly tagged to the internet archive. | 13:17 |
| NathanY | what do you mean properly tagged? | 13:17 |
| NathanY | shomon: well the app would still ask you to license your work, you'd just have the option of storing it somwhere other than the archive (ie, perhaps ccMixter eventually, etc) | 13:18 |
| shomon | jamendo is a good example of cc friendly stuff using p2p for archival/downloading. for me it's about not depending so much on one central site or source, but making it more distributed... Maybe that's useless now but I think it's important in the long run (i.e 10 years down the line etc!) | 13:23 |
| NathanY | true; jamendo is doing some very cool stuff | 13:24 |
| shomon | anyway - nice to chat a bit! have to get back to work now. glad to see this channel! | 13:28 |
| jugglinx | i think it could be nice to have more jamendos... like more local projects... | 13:44 |
| jugglinx | i actually about to make something like this... | 13:44 |
| bkhl | Maybe we should centralise development of a CC content portal that could be rolled out to different countries/regions/languages. | 14:00 |
| bkhl | Sort of like Wikipedia. | 14:00 |
| bkhl | Or Indymedia. | 14:00 |
| NathanY | well that's sort of the idea behind ccHost (the base software of ccMixter) | 14:02 |
| NathanY | a customizable portal anyone can roll out | 14:02 |
| NathanY | and I think Victor is working on a way to aggregate content from ccHost instances | 14:03 |
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| waglo | New news from ccblog: Remix your message <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5769> | 18:50 |
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| cchelpbot | New news from http://creativecommons.org/weblog/rss: Remix your message <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5769> | 18:52 |
| jugglinx | waglo, if i get that rigth i could make my own logos, stickers, t shirts, flags or what ever of CC, right? | 18:54 |
| bkhl | waglo is a bot. | 18:55 |
| jugglinx | hehe... | 18:56 |
| jugglinx | damn... i was like... hmm, looks like a bot, but isnt cchelpbot... | 18:56 |
| mlinksva | jugglinx, yeah, you could make your own cc swag | 18:56 |
| mlinksva | waglo has been here for time immemorial. there's probably no need for cchelpbot to do cc weblog notification here, as waglo does it fine. | 18:58 |
| jugglinx | ok... i knew cchelpbot first but im pretty new here... | 18:58 |
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| * jugglinx looking in wikipedia wtf swag means | 18:59 | |
| mlinksva | jugglinx, no problem | 18:59 |
| mlinksva | uh, stickers, t-shirts, other crap you might get at a conference booth | 18:59 |
| jugglinx | ok... but i cant use the original logo, rigth? | 19:00 |
| mlinksva | good questions. i guess http://creativecommons.org/policies officiously says no, though maybe yes if you include the url http://creativecommons.org | 19:04 |
| jugglinx | yep... that i was thinking... | 19:07 |
| jugglinx | coz that policy is for webs... | 19:08 |
| jugglinx | so i think inserting the URL is a way of "pointing"... | 19:08 |
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| mlinksva | sylvinus mentioned this awhile back, now online http://www.youtube.com/w/Jamendo-on-TF1?v=d6WGgRNCHrk | 19:21 |
| mlinksva | pretty cool, even if you don't understand french (i don't) | 19:21 |
| jugglinx | me neither, but i will check it, of course :-) | 19:22 |
| jugglinx | anyway im preparing a mail for CC and ask them personally... | 19:22 |
| jugglinx | and i dont have flash... ;-) | 19:24 |
| mlinksva | i'm using linux and the flash plugin works fine. of course this makes me a non-saint http://www.stallman.org/saint.html | 19:27 |
| mlinksva | i'll have to kick in some funding for gnash as penance | 19:27 |
| bheung | mlinksva: I tried compiling gnash yesterday, but haven't gotten all the dependencies worked out | 19:29 |
| mlinksva | that's what i got stuck on too | 19:29 |
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| jugglinx | yep... gnash isnt ready yet :-( | 19:34 |
| jugglinx | but im using the propietary nvidia driver also... | 19:35 |
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| jugglinx | http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/archive/linux-doomsday | 19:35 |
| mlinksva | heh | 19:36 |
| jugglinx | what i can say... my Girlfrined loves tuxracer :-) | 19:41 |
| jugglinx | and more with the new features... ;-) | 19:41 |
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