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rejonthat is a an amazing cvs commit01:36
brionoh no01:38
brioncvs spam!01:38
rejonyeah, gotta shorten that01:39
rejonhmmm01:39
rejonI have the mediawiki one sorted01:40
rejonneed a short cvs commit email...01:40
brionwe use cia-bot for our cvs irc notifications01:42
brion(see #commits)01:43
rejoncia-bot?01:43
rejonhow does it work?01:43
rejondamn bots01:43
rejoni just have this bot checking email01:43
brionone less bot we have to run ourselves :)01:43
rejonreally01:43
brionour bugzilla notifications come off our own thingy from bugmail though01:43
rejonaha01:44
rejonI setup our bot to use a module called Sourceforge01:45
rejon@Sourceforge01:45
cchelpbotrejon: Error: "Sourceforge" is not a valid command.01:45
rejon@list Sourceforge01:45
cchelpbotrejon: bug, bugs, fight, patch, patches, rfe, rfes, stats, total, and tracker01:45
rejon@Sourceforge bugs01:45
cchelpbotrejon: #1409513: Fix license text in code, #1183525: OS X ccPublisher corrupts MP3 files, #1172988: PyAssertionError when launching, #1118555: Verification RDF text incorrect, #1118551: Next button is not displayed, #1118547: Do not strip Type 2 metatags, #1091870: pre-populate from existing metadata..., #1091860: embed missing common id3v1&2 fields, #1091855: video notes not picked up by IA?, (1 more message)01:45
rejon@Sourceforge stats01:45
cchelpbotrejon: (sourceforge stats [<project>]) -- Returns the current statistics for <project>. <project> is not needed if there is a default project set.01:45
brionfancy01:46
rejon;)01:48
rejonand we have logging now too01:48
rejonbrion: so you are a mediawiki dev?01:48
brionyep01:48
rejoncool, could you put me onto the trail for hacking in docbook exporter functionality into mediawiki?01:50
rejonbrb01:52
brion*shudder*01:52
brion:D01:52
brioni have the vaguest impression someone was working on that, somewhere01:53
rejonyes!01:58
rejonI think having severl different exporters would be great!01:58
brionthere is an experimental wiki-to-xml thingy somewheresi n our cvs02:01
brionyou might be able to xslt something to docbook from there02:01
brionotherwise... the terror of coding from scratch02:01
rejonhahaha02:11
rejonyeah02:11
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cchelpbotNew news from http://creativecommons.org/weblog/rss: Freedom to Creativity! <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5766> || Help give your senator an iPod loaded with CC music <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5765> || 200,000 CC mp3s <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5764> || Creative Commons media kits <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5763> || Multibillion-dollar business mashup <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5762> || wiki.creativecommons.org <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5761> || Early Malaysian Support for Creative Commons <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5760> || Presentation at Purdue University <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5759> || 100 second festival <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/5758> || Start your own netlabel <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5757> || Working Out Creative Anxieties <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5756> || Battelle's #1 2006 prediction <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5755> || CC's Ts are part of the Flickr zeitgeist <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5754> || Free Culture.org Summit in the Village Voice <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5753> || Discussion Draft - NonCommercial Guidelines <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5752>03:40
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cchelpbotNew news from http://creativecommons.org/weblog/rss: Freedom to Creativity! <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5766> || Help give your senator an iPod loaded with CC music <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5765> || 200,000 CC mp3s <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5764> || Creative Commons media kits <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5763> || Multibillion-dollar business mashup <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5762> || wiki.creativecommons.org <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5761> || Early Malaysian Support for Creative Commons <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5760> || Presentation at Purdue University <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5759> || 100 second festival <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/5758> || Start your own netlabel <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5757> || Working Out Creative Anxieties <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5756> || Battelle's #1 2006 prediction <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5755> || CC's Ts are part of the Flickr zeitgeist <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5754> || Free Culture.org Summit in the Village Voice <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5753> || Discussion Draft - NonCommercial Guidelines <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5752>08:15
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dw_j2meHi12:57
jugglinxciao :-)12:58
dw_j2meI'm trying to push a forum community to start with creative commons and many users are asking to me How can you react when you see a violation... Is out there some advocancy services for creative commoner?12:59
dw_j2meCiao!12:59
jugglinxdw_j2me, AFAIK... CC don t give legal advice... i think if something happens u should get a lawyer specializated in intelectual property...  correct me guys, if im wrong..13:00
dw_j2meThere is no web site offering some sort of support?13:01
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jugglinxif there is, i dunno... but i think the same... it should be lawyers defending CC but public domain needs it more...13:03
jugglinxdid someone here have a site with CC-host?13:08
bkhlI guess there could be a foundation similar to FSF, that you could sign your CC:ed work over to, which would then protect it legally.13:10
bkhlI doubt that CC itself would want to take that on, though.13:11
jugglinxme too... but it s a bit a shame... just for the lack of it..13:12
jugglinxbut the good thing about another foundation makes it, is that maybe they could also defend public domain...13:13
jugglinxmy mom buys not so long a go, 2 books that supposly are in public domain and hey got copyrigth... and they are saling this books like " classics for young people "... but it didn t say that s an adaptation... just were the copyrigth is they say that...13:15
bkhlThere's nothing illegal about claiming copyright on works derived from the public domain.13:16
jugglinxand nobocy will defend this 2 books, coz the authors died like 150 years a go... nobody cares even the heritases...13:16
jugglinxyeah, but you should say it clear... and don t put a bio of the author in the counterside13:16
jugglinxand if u do an adaptation, shouldn t be the name of the author of that adaptation, at least?13:17
bkhlThere's no legal requirements for that. That's the whole point of public domain.13:17
bkhlThere's not much legal defending of public domain works that you could do, since the whole point of it is that it has no legal protection.13:18
sylvinuspublic domain is CC-by without the by :)13:18
bkhlAnd without the copyright...13:18
sylvinuswhat do you mean ?13:18
jugglinxbkhl, but in that way you can continue the copyright over and over...13:19
jugglinxwell CC has copyrigth first sylvinus13:19
jugglinxand after u give some rigths away13:19
jugglinxbkhl, and also most people didn t knew that public domain exist, or how long Copyrigth last... that s taking profit of people...13:21
bkhlYeah, well, our legal system does allow taking profit, regrettably. ;-)13:21
jugglinxsuposse my mom, for example she believe that she buys the original book... translated but original... she didn t knew anything about  C laws... and she think is ok a book written in 1860 have C from 200513:22
jugglinxok = normal13:22
jugglinxmost people think that copyrigth is the only option...13:23
bkhlThat _is_ OK.13:24
jugglinxalso the book comes with  a plastic outside, u can t know that it have C before of buy it... what if i buy the book for make my own adaptation, for example?13:24
bkhlIt's also pretty much standard practise in the publishing industry.13:24
jugglinxyep, but su*13:24
bkhlIt might suck, but there's no way to fight that legally.13:25
jugglinx:-(13:25
bkhlThe only way is to make sure it is available in the public domain.13:25
bkhlLike what Project Gutenberg is doing.13:25
jugglinxi love that project... :-D13:26
bkhlIt should also be legal to use public domain content even if you extract it from a copyrighted work, like those "classics" editions. But that's a political fight.13:26
bkhlIt would also be cool if someone started a print-on-demand company based on Project Gutenberg.13:27
bkhlI don't know, maybe that already exists.13:27
jugglinxnice idea!!13:27
jugglinxi never say it here before... but im about to mount a web like jamendo... here in argentina... but i wanted more local...13:28
jugglinxand with presence in the live shows...13:28
bkhlYou mean on the radio?13:29
jugglinxand i have some questions about it.... for example... the CC logos are a trademark but i check the CC policy and they say u can use meanwhile u point the logo to their website13:30
jugglinxno i mean in the bands live shows... the idea is having an stand explain the CC license to the people...13:30
bkhlAh.13:30
jugglinxmeanwhile all the concerts of all the bands in my web...13:30
bkhlIs copyright issues getting big in Argentina, like in Brazil?13:31
jugglinxnot really... we didn t a cool culture minister like brazil does...13:31
jugglinxbut musicians are tired of the authors asociation... like everywhere13:32
bkhlI thought that might still have some impact via media and so forth.13:32
jugglinxmy web?13:32
bkhlNo, the whole copyright debate in Brazil.13:32
jugglinxahh... yes i hope so :-D13:33
jugglinxgilberto gil is doing a great work13:33
bkhlHere in Sweden, the musicians' mob (STIM), still is going strong, I'm afraid.13:33
jugglinxhere also... but time to time :-)13:34
jugglinxabout the logos... i know i can use them in the web is i pointed to CC web, but...13:34
bkhlBut what?13:34
jugglinxi wil like to make flags for the bands can take to their concert...13:35
bkhlI would just ask for permission.13:35
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jugglinxthey could have CC logo and say http:/creativecommons.org13:35
jugglinxthat s is also pointing, did u think?13:35
jugglinxwell i will send them a mail... telling about the project... and this idea of the flags...13:36
jugglinxit s too digitalizated CC, and here not so much people have internet, and the one which have it... thay still have modems 56k... is very difficult to make it digital here...13:37
jugglinxcoz that i wan to have presence in the live shows... for spread the word..13:38
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jugglinxdid someone try CChost?13:52
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rejon@uptime23:43
cchelpbotrejon: I have been running for 15 hours, 28 minutes, and 36 seconds.23:43
rejonjugglinx: I just read the logs and you asked about cchost?23:45
rejonwhat questions do you have?23:45
jugglinxrejon... not so much now coz i couldn t mount LAMP still ;-)23:54
rejonbummer23:54
rejonok...ping here once you are ready ;)23:54
rejonwhat is the problem on lamp? what distro?23:55
jugglinxok thanks :-D23:55
jugglinxdebian...23:55
jugglinxactually isn t my prob,,, my ISP didn t want to give the pass for my router... so i can t open port 8023:56
jugglinxeven when i pay for that router... we have a chat in a REAL bad way with the guy of my ISP...23:57
rejonbut you should be able to install locally and use lamp locally23:57
jugglinxbtw they are the only ones who offers adsl in this lousy town :-(23:57
rejondo you have that working?23:57
rejonwhere?23:57
jugglinxyep... but i get really mad... maybe tomorrow...23:58
jugglinxfunes, rosario, argentina...23:58
rejonbummer...ok...23:58
jugglinxcoz i call yesterday complain about i have a connection of 512 KB and i get like maximum 6 KB/s...23:59
jugglinxand today about the router...23:59

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