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| coz_ | hey guys... I do the icons for compiz/ccsm and recently did a set based on tango.. most of which have been heavily edite but definitly "tangoish" | 08:36 |
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| coz_ | how would this need to be licensed... | 08:37 |
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| coz_ | some icons I believe are tango icons so but since tango does not create ccsm specifig icons ...of course I had to edit them...but a question as to licensing has been brought up in the project | 08:38 |
| coz_ | specific rather | 08:38 |
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| JED3 | nkinkade: ping | 16:23 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Hey. I was just editing the ticket. | 16:23 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: ohh okay, i'll wait to read that first then | 16:24 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Just sent it. Basically there is a new VPS at scraper.creativecommons.org | 16:25 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Your password on that machine should be the same as on a5. | 16:26 |
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| paroneayea | x_x | 16:32 |
| paroneayea | a5 unreachable from here | 16:32 |
| paroneayea | oh wait | 16:33 |
| paroneayea | there it goes. | 16:33 |
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| paroneayea | nkinkade: JED3: so do we need to add Estonia to jurisdictions.rdf, I assume? | 16:37 |
| paroneayea | :O | 16:41 |
| nkinkade | paroneayea: Estonia: not yet, I think ... unless it's just for staging. | 16:48 |
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| paroneayea | okay | 16:48 |
| paroneayea | I got an email a few days ago about them being happy with the estonia translations | 16:49 |
| paroneayea | so I wasn't sure if I should update the live site or not | 16:49 |
| paroneayea | well I just did an update for the non-deeds part | 16:50 |
| paroneayea | ie, didn't clear the cache | 16:50 |
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| nkinkade | paroneayea: We won't update the live site until Diane gives the green light, and that will not likely be for another few weeks, at least. | 17:04 |
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| JED3 | paroneayea: ping | 17:07 |
| JED3 | i'm on a fresh machine trying to install lxml but not having any luck | 17:08 |
| JED3 | libxml2 and libxslt are the only prereq.s needed for setuptools to install lxml right? | 17:09 |
| JED3 | err, i mean the dev versions of those packages | 17:10 |
| JED3 | sudo apt-get install python-dev build-essential libxml2-dev libxslt-dev | 17:11 |
| JED3 | what am i forgetting here? | 17:11 |
| JED3 | gcc keeps failing when setuptools tries to install lxml | 17:11 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: ^^ maybe you know? | 17:12 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Let me take a look. | 17:14 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Are those packages not installed? It seems to me that they are. Are you referring to some packages being installed by buildout i.e. not from Debian? | 17:16 |
| JED3 | packages managed by buildout | 17:17 |
| JED3 | the python "lxml" requires a few system packages to be installed | 17:17 |
| JED3 | trying to figure out what its missing | 17:17 |
| nkinkade | JED3: I do know that NRY hates system python packages for this very reason. | 17:19 |
| nkinkade | I think if he had his way everything would be installed with easy_install or setuptools. | 17:19 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: i'm not installing a system python package | 17:19 |
| JED3 | thats what i am trying to avoid | 17:19 |
| nkinkade | JED3: But it's quite possible that one of your python packages requires a newer version of libxml than you installed with apt-get. | 17:19 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: not likely | 17:20 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: that may be a premature to assume, but i don't think that could be it | 17:21 |
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| JED3 | sudo aptitude show libxslt1-dev libxml2-dev libc6 python-dev build-essential | 17:34 |
| JED3 | what am i missing? | 17:34 |
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| JED3 | ahh, i was missing zlib | 17:59 |
| paroneayea | yo | 18:04 |
| paroneayea | back, was @ lunch | 18:04 |
| paroneayea | looks like you got it | 18:05 |
| paroneayea | cc.org timing out here again | 18:17 |
| paroneayea | (it's back up) | 18:19 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: ping | 18:20 |
| paroneayea | JED3: pong | 18:20 |
| JED3 | I need to make some modifications to the deed templates later today, can we sync up for that? | 18:20 |
| paroneayea | shore thing | 18:20 |
| JED3 | great | 18:21 |
| paroneayea | know what time you might do it? | 18:21 |
| paroneayea | for timezone reasons | 18:21 |
| JED3 | yeah, well i hope to get to it real soon... | 18:21 |
| JED3 | maybe in 20-30 minutes? | 18:21 |
| paroneayea | sure | 18:24 |
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| paulproteus | akozak + others: I'll be at CC at, like, 2:30 today | 18:45 |
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| akozak | cool paulproteus | 18:53 |
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| nkinkade | JED3: How goes it with the move? Just curious. | 19:35 |
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| iboB | hey do you know where i could ask a question about gpl? | 19:44 |
| donaldrr3 | #gnu is usually a good place | 19:46 |
| iboB | thanks | 19:47 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: just finished up before taking off for lunch | 19:51 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: pinggg | 19:51 |
| paroneayea | JED3: pong | 19:52 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: have a moment to make that template change with me? | 19:53 |
| paroneayea | JED3: yup | 19:54 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: cool, coming right up | 19:56 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: ackkkk, sorry i forgot to change something in the scraper first | 19:58 |
| paroneayea | np | 19:58 |
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| JED3 | paroneayea: http://dpaste.com/265356/ | 20:26 |
| JED3 | and for the pdm + cc0 templates, will you change the deed.js and apps/deed paths to pddeed.js and apps/pddeed respectively | 20:27 |
| paroneayea | JED3: ah okay | 20:27 |
| JED3 | something about this script that doesn't sit well with me | 20:28 |
| JED3 | document.write'ing a script tag | 20:28 |
| mralex | gross | 20:28 |
| paroneayea | is that a <script> in your <script> | 20:29 |
| mralex | you got script tag in my script tag | 20:29 |
| paroneayea | yo dawg | 20:29 |
| akozak | ohhh no | 20:29 |
| paroneayea | hey is nyergler out this week, I forget | 20:30 |
| akozak | yes | 20:30 |
| akozak | and next week | 20:30 |
| paroneayea | then I don't need to tell everyone it's cc tech team checkin time | 20:30 |
| paroneayea | so I won't say that thing | 20:30 |
| paroneayea | that I just said | 20:30 |
| JED3 | haha | 20:30 |
| akozak | good, because that would be unnecessary | 20:30 |
| mralex | JED3: does that document write do more than what an XmlHttpRequest would do? | 20:31 |
| paroneayea | JED3: maybe we can do that on the ZPT end? | 20:31 |
| JED3 | although nkinkade voiced his disapproval in paroneayea poor performance last week | 20:31 |
| paroneayea | !! | 20:31 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: naa, we're caching remember? | 20:31 |
| paroneayea | oh on updating everyone | 20:31 |
| paroneayea | haha | 20:31 |
| paroneayea | JED3: oh right :( | 20:31 |
| JED3 | hehe yeah | 20:31 |
| nkinkade | JED3: poor performance? | 20:32 |
| paroneayea | maybe we should do it with SSI's then! ;) | 20:32 |
| paroneayea | joking | 20:32 |
| JED3 | mralex: XmlHttpRequests are out of the question now that the scraper lives on a different host | 20:32 |
| paroneayea | nkinkade: I didn't notify everyone of the call on time | 20:32 |
| paroneayea | because I was away when emacs notified me | 20:32 |
| paroneayea | I failed the team! | 20:32 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: in not alerting us of the cc tech call, like he normally does :) | 20:32 |
| nkinkade | paroneayea: You're slipping. :-) | 20:32 |
| nkinkade | :-) | 20:32 |
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| JED3 | mralex: this is the only imaginable way to get this call to work correctly, we could have either made a server side proxy for the scraper (which doesn't help much re: the load issue on a5) or use a JSONP approach | 20:34 |
| JED3 | so we're just going to have to live with some gross js in the deed, until we can figure out a more elegant solution | 20:35 |
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| nkinkade | JED3: We could eventually move the scraper back to a5. But just for now it seems that some aspect of scraping is causing a problem on a5, so isolating it will give us some breathing room until we can figure out what is going on. | 20:40 |
| nkinkade | I've wonder if setting the MaxProcessCount to 25 could be a problem. | 20:41 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: i honestly don't mind it being on another machine, give it more room to breath | 20:41 |
| nkinkade | Yeah, it may prevent a glut of processes that bog the machine down, but I'm not sure how Apache handles it when it has already reached the MaxProcessCount? Does it queue the request until a slot is open? If so, it may be causing pileups. | 20:42 |
| nkinkade | JED3: ^^ | 20:42 |
| JED3 | the reasons why we weren't having these problems 6 months ago, is becase the scraper is doing 4 or 5 times more work now that we moved all of the js logic serverside | 20:42 |
| nkinkade | Ah. That's good to know. Because I was really wondering why it wasn't a problem previously. | 20:42 |
| nkinkade | But I look at it more like giving CC.org more room to breath than giving the scraper more. :-) | 20:43 |
| JED3 | it'll queue a worker thread until whatever thread for that process is currently holding the lock waiting on a response from whatever page is scraping | 20:43 |
| JED3 | it'll also lock while it extracts the rdfa from the content of the response | 20:43 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: haha yes, its best for everyone for these two to divorce | 20:44 |
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| paroneayea | JED3: that thing you dpasted | 21:08 |
| paroneayea | is that for all deeds? | 21:08 |
| JED3 | any deed that's linking to /includes/referrer/deed.js | 21:09 |
| JED3 | which i think is all of them? | 21:09 |
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| JED3 | paroneayea: ^^ | 21:14 |
| paroneayea | blehhh | 21:15 |
| paroneayea | okay | 21:15 |
| paroneayea | so also | 21:15 |
| paroneayea | okay, let's recap | 21:16 |
| paroneayea | pddeed.js, in the old one, was also for the scraper | 21:16 |
| paroneayea | yeah? | 21:16 |
| paroneayea | so we're getting rid of that, and | 21:16 |
| paroneayea | <JED3> and for the pdm + cc0 templates, will you change the deed.js and | 21:17 |
| paroneayea | apps/deed paths to pddeed.js and apps/pddeed respectively [15:27] | 21:17 |
| paroneayea | I have no idea what you meant by apps/deed paths | 21:17 |
| JED3 | sorry.... | 21:18 |
| JED3 | use this for the standard deeds http://dpaste.com/265356/ | 21:19 |
| JED3 | and http://dpaste.com/265394/ for the PDM and CC0 deeds | 21:19 |
| paroneayea | got it! | 21:20 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: sorry for being vague | 21:20 |
| paroneayea | np | 21:20 |
| paroneayea | unrelated: http://git-annex.branchable.com/ | 21:23 |
| akozak | we should've used HML for the new server | 21:29 |
| akozak | http://hannahmontana.sourceforge.net/Site/Home.html | 21:29 |
| paroneayea | it's value is all on the graphical desktop though! | 21:30 |
| paroneayea | time to replace all CC desktops w/ HML though | 21:30 |
| paroneayea | mandatory switch | 21:30 |
| akozak | no I'm gonna fork it and start HML server edition | 21:30 |
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| akozak | it will have the cutest. terminal. ever. | 21:31 |
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| mralex | "Hannah Montana Linux is fast, stable and powerful." | 21:33 |
| akozak | "It is not vulnerable to Windows viruses." | 21:33 |
| mralex | …much like Hannah Montana herself. | 21:33 |
| akozak | don't be so sure. I hear she runs windows ME | 21:33 |
| mralex | that would explain a lot | 21:34 |
| JED3 | akozak: hehe the sticky guy is still on the ceiling | 21:35 |
| akozak | JED3, haha | 21:35 |
| akozak | would be funny to put one over mike's desk | 21:36 |
| JED3 | haha | 21:36 |
| JED3 | so that it fell randomly one day? | 21:36 |
| akozak | splat, right in the curry | 21:36 |
| JED3 | lol | 21:36 |
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| paroneayea | JED3: updated on staging | 21:44 |
| paroneayea | I think :D | 21:44 |
| paroneayea | look right to you? | 21:44 |
| JED3 | http://staging.creativecommons.org/publicdomain/mark/1.0/ | 21:44 |
| paroneayea | lol | 21:44 |
| paroneayea | fixing ;p | 21:45 |
| JED3 | :} | 21:45 |
| akozak | I've been wondering: What's with the u before values in a dictionary object? | 21:46 |
| paroneayea | akozak: unicode string | 21:46 |
| akozak | ah, should've guessed | 21:46 |
| CC_Hudson | Project cc.engine build (176): UNSTABLE in 3 min 23 sec: http://code.creativecommons.org/hudson/job/cc.engine/176/ | 21:49 |
| CC_Hudson | Christopher Allan Webber: John doig has new metadata scraper JS\! | 21:49 |
| paroneayea | ohnoeeees | 21:57 |
| JED3 | akozak: "r" | "u" | "ur" | "R" | "U" | "UR" | "Ur" | "uR" | "b" | "B" | "br" | "Br" | "bR" | "BR" can all be used as string prefixes | 21:57 |
| akozak | oh neat | 21:59 |
| paroneayea | JED3: shouldn't it b3e script src | 22:00 |
| paroneayea | instead of href | 22:00 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: gasp! yes | 22:00 |
| JED3 | whoops sorry i do that all the time | 22:00 |
| paroneayea | I don't think zpt wants to let us do this | 22:02 |
| paroneayea | it's getting angry at the script in the script | 22:02 |
| paroneayea | if you escape stuff inside of document.write("<script") | 22:03 |
| JED3 | grr, well tell it to shut up | 22:03 |
| paroneayea | what happens | 22:03 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: it'll be written as safe characters and a browser won't be able to interpret the tag | 22:03 |
| paroneayea | yarg :( | 22:03 |
| paroneayea | I don't know how to fix it then | 22:03 |
| JED3 | you could do document.write("<scr" + "ipt zpt sucks ass") | 22:04 |
| paroneayea | haha | 22:04 |
| paroneayea | we could do that | 22:04 |
| paroneayea | I'll try that one. | 22:04 |
| JED3 | haha this js is getting more repulsive by the second | 22:04 |
| JED3 | try "<" + "script" first will ya? | 22:04 |
| mralex | :/ | 22:04 |
| paroneayea | "<scr" + "EEEEEEEECH src='CRASH'" | 22:04 |
| JED3 | less of a hack | 22:05 |
| JED3 | lol | 22:05 |
| paroneayea | users look at the deed | 22:05 |
| JED3 | at the source? | 22:05 |
| paroneayea | "these cc guys sure know a lot about web standards!"| | 22:05 |
| JED3 | haha | 22:05 |
| mralex | well, at least document.write isn't deprecated | 22:06 |
| mralex | ….is it? | 22:06 |
| JED3 | you know since we're using a file middleware cache, we should compressed the html files in the cache | 22:06 |
| JED3 | mralex: no way | 22:06 |
| paroneayea | hm, we shouldl do that prolly | 22:06 |
| paroneayea | document.write("<" + "script type='text/javascript' src='http://scraper.creativecommons.org/apps/pddeed?url=" + encodeURIComponent(document.referrer) + "&license_uri=" + document.URL + "callback=YAHOO.cc.success'" + "><" + "/script>"); | 22:07 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: it could be seperate from cc.engine, maybe a script that polls on the directory and compresses each file | 22:07 |
| paroneayea | beauuuuuuutifullll | 22:07 |
| JED3 | 1337 coderz | 22:07 |
| paroneayea | well it renders now. | 22:07 |
| mralex | or you could just do dom modification, at the expense of extra bytes. :P | 22:07 |
| paroneayea | we could do that thing. | 22:07 |
| paroneayea | couldn't we? | 22:07 |
| paroneayea | JED3: | 22:07 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: mralex yeah i wrote a cleaner way in the email thread, but NRY nixed the idea | 22:08 |
| paroneayea | document.onload | 22:08 |
| JED3 | he said both were gross, go with the one with a smaller footprint | 22:08 |
| paroneayea | a smaller, smellier footprint | 22:08 |
| JED3 | lets just do this for right now, we can clean it up later | 22:09 |
| paroneayea | hokay | 22:10 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: unless you object? | 22:10 |
| paroneayea | nope! It's your smelly footprint | 22:10 |
| paroneayea | I'm letting you claim ownership | 22:10 |
| paroneayea | I wonder how much it might save cc.engine in resources if we didn't reload the template from disk on every render | 22:13 |
| paroneayea | JED3: updated | 22:14 |
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| CC_Hudson | Yippie, build fixed! | 22:19 |
| CC_Hudson | Project cc.engine build (177): FIXED in 3 min 44 sec: http://code.creativecommons.org/hudson/job/cc.engine/177/ | 22:19 |
| CC_Hudson | Christopher Allan Webber: Cleaned up this gross script in a script so that it renders at least | 22:19 |
| paroneayea | yippee hippiee! | 22:20 |
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| nkinkade | JED3: Have you noticed that staging.CC.net loads really slowly sometimes? | 22:40 |
| nkinkade | It just took the page nearly 3 minutes to load, and I experienced this the other day too. | 22:44 |
| nkinkade | Is there any sort of debugging or something enabled that might be bringing it to a crawl? | 22:45 |
| nkinkade | JED3: ^^ | 22:48 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: not to my knowledge, i haven't noticed anything | 22:57 |
| nkinkade | JED3: It's almost unusable for me now. I think it could be Varnish somehow. | 22:58 |
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| JED3 | paroneayea: thanks for helping out! | 23:00 |
| paroneayea | JED3: of course | 23:01 |
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| paroneayea | nkinkade: could be that we're not auto-rendering the deeds on staging? | 23:01 |
| nkinkade | paroneayea: This is staging.CC.net, not .org | 23:01 |
| paroneayea | herp derp, got it | 23:01 |
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