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| JED3 | paroneayea: ping | 17:21 |
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| paroneayea | JED3: pong | 17:22 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: hi, can i request a change to the cc0 deed template? | 17:22 |
| paroneayea | JED3: sure; can I pick your brain about extractions? ;) | 17:23 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: definitely, my request is simple though | 17:23 |
| JED3 | <li style="padding-bottom: 0.5em; display:none;"><strong>Work Details</strong></li> in the CC0 template does not have a css selector id | 17:23 |
| JED3 | in the PDM tempalte you have "work-details-title" as the id for that node, can we do the same for cc0? | 17:23 |
| paroneayea | yes | 17:24 |
| paroneayea | now for my question! | 17:24 |
| paroneayea | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/275049/ the stuff I've extracted from zpt using a script built from zope's tools | 17:25 |
| paroneayea | now does the pot file normally have what we end up with in the msgstr in the Default "comment" like that? | 17:25 |
| paroneayea | before merging? | 17:25 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: are you asking whether or not msgstr should == the default text there? | 17:26 |
| paroneayea | yes | 17:27 |
| paroneayea | basically does this get "corrected" by msgmerge or whatever the hell | 17:27 |
| paroneayea | I'm guesing no | 17:27 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: no, i don't believe so | 17:29 |
| paroneayea | kk, I think I need to interface-monkeypatch some of these zope tools then | 17:29 |
| paroneayea | blaurgablaurga | 17:29 |
| paroneayea | thx JED3 | 17:29 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: well now i'm a bit stumped | 17:31 |
| JED3 | where/when is the default text used? | 17:31 |
| JED3 | in the gettext machinery? | 17:31 |
| paroneayea | well normally we turn that into the msgstr in *our* pot files | 17:32 |
| paroneayea | but I'm not sure how the hell that happened with the old i18nextract.py setup since instead of putting that in the msgstr it puts it in the Default thing | 17:32 |
| paroneayea | am I making any sense? | 17:32 |
| akozak | JED3, network seem slow to you? | 17:36 |
| JED3 | the local network or the cc network? i'm concerned with the latter | 17:36 |
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| JED3 | akozak: i'm not experiencing anything over here | 17:38 |
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| JED3 | paroneayea: http://code.creativecommons.org/viewsvn/metadata_scraper/trunk/src/cc/deedscraper/i18n/cc_org.pot?revision=13957&view=markup&pathrev=13957 | 17:40 |
| paroneayea | JED3: oh hrm!! | 17:40 |
| paroneayea | so maybe this is working "right" after all | 17:41 |
| paroneayea | I've never done a msgmerge or message extract before | 17:41 |
| JED3 | yeah i think so | 17:41 |
| paroneayea | and am doing it at a time when the tools are broken, so it's kind of frustrating not knowing what is and isn't broken | 17:41 |
| paroneayea | however nathan's speech has been pushed back till friday so I am flipping a few less tables | 17:42 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: i can help with the i18n merge | 17:42 |
| JED3 | quick question, how are you setting the default text? | 17:43 |
| paroneayea | JED3: I'm not setting it myself, zope's tools are in this section of code: | 17:43 |
| paroneayea | http://dpaste.com/257383/ | 17:44 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: this is from the routine performing the extraction? | 17:46 |
| paroneayea | yes | 17:47 |
| paroneayea | were you asking how it looks on the template side? | 17:47 |
| JED3 | yeah | 17:48 |
| paroneayea | it just takes whatever text is between the elements like so: | 17:48 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: ahh nvm then | 17:48 |
| paroneayea | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/275059/ | 17:48 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: i think before you go the i18n_merge, you'll need to moved those default values in the msgstr's | 17:50 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: unless there's a shit ton of new strings being added? | 17:50 |
| paroneayea | there are quite a few. how did you do it? | 17:51 |
| paroneayea | manually? :o | 17:51 |
| paroneayea | JED3: updated on live | 17:52 |
| paroneayea | w/ your request | 17:52 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: great thank you | 17:52 |
| paroneayea | yup | 17:55 |
| paroneayea | once I figure out the "proper" way to move from Default->msgstr I think I'll be in a good state | 17:55 |
| paroneayea | I might just write a script that runs the thing through Babel if necessary | 17:55 |
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| akozak | mralex, if only those miners had some sticks. they could craft diamond picks and torches to avoid the creepers. | 20:15 |
| mralex | that was my first though too :( | 20:21 |
| mralex | i hope they had enough light to fend off zombies and creepers | 20:21 |
| akozak | nkinkade, not sure I totally understand your last email. what are some circumstances where a client forces varnish to refresh an object, and does this affect the wiki at all? | 20:28 |
| akozak | I understand the http header cache-control, but I don't necessarily know in what circumstances it's common to be sent | 20:30 |
| nyergler | JED3: paroneayea: not sure who this should be assigned to, but it is embarassing -- http://code.creativecommons.org/issues/issue686 | 20:31 |
| nkinkade | akozak: Any client can set what request headers they want. | 20:32 |
| akozak | right, but does no-cache correspond with e.g. browser refresh | 20:32 |
| nkinkade | One common way to cause that to happen, in Firefox, at least, is the Shift-Refresh method. | 20:32 |
| akozak | ah ok | 20:32 |
| nkinkade | No, but it does correspond with Shift-Refresh. | 20:32 |
| nkinkade | Or you could use wget and set it manually. | 20:33 |
| nkinkade | Or I'm sure there are Firefox extensions for manually altering headers. | 20:33 |
| paroneayea | nyergler: looking | 20:33 |
| nkinkade | And I have no idea how Opera, Safari, IE and the others work. | 20:33 |
| nyergler | thanks | 20:33 |
| akozak | nkinkade, so do you know how long varnish caches a page? i'm having a hard time envisioning how all of this works in relation to internal caching in SMW since there are two layers of it | 20:34 |
| nkinkade | akozak: From what I've known it's always been 180 seconds. | 20:35 |
| akozak | normally SMW refreshes data on a page when its saved. but could varnish theoretically serve an older version? | 20:35 |
| akozak | ah ok | 20:35 |
| nkinkade | akozak: I wouldn't worry too much about it until you know there's a problem. | 20:35 |
| nkinkade | If things seem to work fine, then they are probably fine. | 20:35 |
| akozak | nkinkade, I'm mostly worried about my own development, since I'm refreshing pages a lot when developing templates. | 20:36 |
| nkinkade | akozak: Like I say, if there is a major caching issue, you'll know about soon enough. | 20:36 |
| akozak | just wondering if I should consider avarnish a factor if something isnt working | 20:36 |
| nkinkade | Perhaps. | 20:36 |
| akozak | ok thanks | 20:36 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: should we be including the license number in the "title" of a license object? | 20:37 |
| JED3 | >>> cc.license.by_uri('http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/').title() | 20:37 |
| JED3 | u'CC0 1.0 Universal' | 20:37 |
| paroneayea | JED3: yes | 20:37 |
| paroneayea | I think? | 20:37 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: you're right | 20:37 |
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| nyergler | akozak: just request your page from port 8080 when developing to bypass varnish | 20:41 |
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| akozak | ah thanks nyergler | 20:42 |
| paroneayea | JED3: <dc:title xml:lang="en-sg">Attribution 3.0 Unported</dc:title> | 20:43 |
| paroneayea | 20:43 | |
| paroneayea | so that's the norm | 20:43 |
| * JED3 raises hand to claim the embarrassing bug | 20:43 | |
| paroneayea | to have the version in the title | 20:43 |
| JED3 | nyergler: paroneayea: just pushed the fix | 20:43 |
| nyergler | awesome, thanks JED3! | 20:44 |
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| nkinkade | JED3: What is /var/www/staging.creativecommons.net on a9? | 20:47 |
| nkinkade | Should I just move zupport.CC.org to that dir? | 20:47 |
| JED3 | hmm, yeah thats no longer needed | 20:47 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Like you were saying a few days ago, I think it makes sense that zupport.CC.org goes away and becomes staging.CC.net. | 20:48 |
| nkinkade | I'll do that now if the exiting staging.CC.net isn't needed any longer. | 20:48 |
| JED3 | agreed, and zapport can be blown away as well | 20:48 |
| mralex | nkinkade: can we make staging.cc.net a fresh clone of production? | 20:51 |
| nkinkade | mralex: Yeah, I can do that while I'm cleaning up right now. | 20:51 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: mralex is there any way to sync 2 drupal installations? | 20:52 |
| nkinkade | mralex: JED3: I'm going to clean up the /var/www and also /etc/apache, but I'll archive any of the old dirs and files in my home dir just in case we need them in the coming months. | 20:52 |
| nkinkade | JED3: In terms of the database? | 20:52 |
| mralex | i'm not sure if i hit send on my reply to that deployment roundup thread, but i think it would be a good idea to have a development instance too, so staging remains as clean as possible for production testing | 20:52 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: yes | 20:52 |
| nkinkade | JED3: For that I usually just mysqldump the production version, then drop the staging version, then import the dump into the staging db. | 20:53 |
| nkinkade | It generally works pretty well, but you have to be a little careful about site configs and paths that might be saved in the db instead of the config files. | 20:53 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: hmm, couldn't we set the staging db to act as a slave to the production one? | 20:53 |
| nkinkade | JED3: I'm not sure I follow. | 20:54 |
| nkinkade | How would we resolve places where the dbs differed necessarily. | 20:54 |
| nkinkade | Like in CiviCRM where paths are saved? | 20:54 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: i'm pretty sure you can configure which tables should be replicated and which should not | 20:55 |
| nkinkade | Hmm. Yeah, we'll then maybe that could be a possibility. | 20:55 |
| nkinkade | I don't really know anything about master/slave setups in MySQL or replication. | 20:55 |
| JED3 | http://twitter.com/wizwow hehe this is pretty entertaining | 20:58 |
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| JED3 | nkinkade: ping | 21:19 |
| nkinkade | JED3: ? | 21:19 |
| JED3 | do you know what just happened to civicrm? | 21:19 |
| JED3 | https://creativecommons.net/civicrm/dashboard | 21:19 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Not sure. But could it be related to my moving some old directories around? | 21:21 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: hmm possibly, i was using civicrm about 30 min ago and it was working fine | 21:21 |
| nkinkade | JED3: I just moved all the old webroots back into place, but the problem seems to be persisting. | 21:23 |
| nkinkade | Let's keep looking a bit more. | 21:23 |
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| nkinkade | JED3: Fixed, I believe. | 21:26 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: awesome, what was it? | 21:26 |
| nkinkade | It would appear that CiviCRM was still using /var/www/support.CC.org for some things. | 21:26 |
| nkinkade | I'm going to check all the file paths in the settings. | 21:26 |
| nkinkade | Yup. That was it. So when I moved the old directory, thinking it was defunct, CiviCRM got upset. | 21:28 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: ahh okay | 21:29 |
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| nkinkade | JED3: I also found an old path in civicrm.settings.php, and settings_location.php. | 21:42 |
| nkinkade | And discovered that it was necessary to delete files/civicrm/templates_c/en_US/ConfigAndLog/Config.IDS.ini | 21:42 |
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