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| MaurizioB | Hello, I'm going to release a (by-nc-nd) slideshow with music extracted from a concert. We are going to deposit the complete music parts for future commercial release, is there any incompatibility with the license? | 00:50 |
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| luisv | MaurizioB: if you're the copyright holder, you can do both | 00:52 |
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| MaurizioB | luisv: really? | 00:58 |
| luisv | MaurizioB: whoever is doing your commercial release may not like it | 00:58 |
| luisv | (they might not want to compete with the music in the slideshow) | 00:58 |
| luisv | (I guess) | 00:58 |
| MaurizioB | (this is not a problem, for this moment, since we're still going to record in studio and we are far away from a complete product) | 00:59 |
| MaurizioB | my doubt is just about license compatibility | 00:59 |
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| luisv | in what sense? | 01:00 |
| MaurizioB | we live in Italy and here there's a terrible copyright system, which is totally under a single society | 01:01 |
| MaurizioB | (sorry for my terrible english, I'm really tired also...) | 01:01 |
| MaurizioB | deposit of an artistic production is possible only via this monopolistic society, and their regulation is actually not compatible with cc | 01:03 |
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| luisv | MaurizioB: sorry, I had to get on the train | 02:58 |
| luisv | MaurizioB: ah, I had forgotten about the collecting societies | 02:58 |
| luisv | MaurizioB: you would really want to find someone familiar with CC and italian copyright law | 02:58 |
| luisv | I am definitely not that person, sorry :/ | 02:58 |
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| CC_Hudson | Christopher Allan Webber: We're using the language_javascript macro, so no need to duplicate that here | 14:26 |
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| paroneayea | :B | 14:55 |
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| paroneayea | save me mralex, ur my only hope: http://code.creativecommons.org/issues/issue642 ;o | 16:53 |
| mralex | beep boop boop | 16:54 |
| mralex | go with the new, i did indeed bump font sizes up a bit | 16:54 |
| paroneayea | ah okay :D | 16:54 |
| paroneayea | mralex: could you please incorporate graphic design like this into our CC materials: http://lovestarrecords.com/web/images/Paradim_Shift_Cover_29.jpg | 16:57 |
| paroneayea | pleeeeeeeeease | 16:57 |
| mralex | i would, but i only go to the fourth dimension | 16:57 |
| paroneayea | damn | 16:58 |
| mralex | hypercube! and away! | 16:58 |
| mralex | please tell me the starbaby is cc licensed | 16:58 |
| paroneayea | I dont believe it is, unfortunately | 16:58 |
| mralex | aw | 16:59 |
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| paroneayea | * (-_- * * | 17:06 |
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| paroneayea | * "" | 17:06 |
| paroneayea | * * * * | 17:06 |
| paroneayea | STARBABY | 17:06 |
| paroneayea | lunchtime bbiab | 17:06 |
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| CC_Hudson | Yippie, build fixed! | 19:39 |
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| CC_Hudson | Christopher Allan Webber: We're no longer keeping the sidebar international dropdown. | 19:39 |
| paroneayea | nyergler: it's a super small diff but http://code.creativecommons.org/viewgit/cc.engine.git/commit/?id=a4e3db9bdbe70489303c4b47c03a8efce1ffcdbf | 19:42 |
| paroneayea | just double check that's right before I push to live? | 19:42 |
| greg-g | I love how Hudson says "Yippie" | 19:45 |
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| paroneayea | h | 19:48 |
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| nyergler | paroneayea, yes, thumbs up | 20:18 |
| paroneayea | nyergler: cool | 20:19 |
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| paroneayea | http://creativecommons.org/choose/ done | 20:22 |
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| paroneayea | nyergler: yearly review still on in 8 minutes? ;o | 20:23 |
| paroneayea | conf line #2 I'm guessing? | 20:24 |
| nyergler | paroneayea, sure, waiting on jen to return | 20:26 |
| nyergler | i can ping when she's back (should be about on time) | 20:26 |
| paroneayea | nyergler: k, sounds good | 20:26 |
| nyergler | paroneayea, back, calling #2 momentarily | 20:31 |
| paroneayea | nyergler: kk, me too | 20:33 |
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| CC_Hudson | * Nathan Kinkade: Removed es_ES. One, because the text label at Transifex.net is wrong, and two, because CC Spain is interested in participating in the Spanish consolidation, so es_ES won't be necessary, probably. | 21:53 |
| CC_Hudson | * Nathan Kinkade: Renamed ast_ES to ast, as we're not likely to need a Spain-specific locale for that language. | 21:53 |
| CC_Hudson | * Nathan Kinkade: Renamed lang.ast_ES to lang.ast, then ran sync and po2cc. | 21:53 |
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| nkinkade | nyergler: paroneayea: Was not pinning a jurisdiction selection at /choose to a specific language a conscious one? | 22:03 |
| nkinkade | I seem to recall that in the old cc.engine selecting a jurisdiction would reload the page with the default lang for that jurisdiciton. | 22:04 |
| nkinkade | Or at the very least if accessed with ?jurisdiction=xx, it would load in that juris. default lang. | 22:05 |
| nyergler | nkinkade, you mean it'd reload based on jurisdiction changes? | 22:05 |
| nkinkade | nyergler: ^^^ | 22:05 |
| nyergler | i don't think it ever reloaded | 22:05 |
| nyergler | i think that it would default to the jurisdiction's default language | 22:05 |
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| nkinkade | nyergler: That doesn't seem to be the case any longer. | 22:05 |
| nyergler | i can't remember at the moment... i seem to remember some conversation about just doing language negotiation | 22:06 |
| nkinkade | Not sure if that matters, but Ignasi from CC Spain called it out. | 22:06 |
| nyergler | nkinkade, i'm having trouble remembering the specifics... | 22:06 |
| nkinkade | It merely means that anyone linking to /choose and wanting a particular lang will need to specify lang=xx, in addition to perhaps jurisdiction=xx. | 22:06 |
| nyergler | i know that belgium had some issues with the way we were doing things -- since they're split nearly 50/50 french/dutch? | 22:06 |
| nkinkade | nyergler: Now that I think of it, I think it was the other way around, right? | 22:07 |
| nyergler | what do you mean? | 22:07 |
| nyergler | (other way around) | 22:07 |
| nkinkade | That is, if someone accessed /choose with ?lang=es, it would default the jurisdiciton to "es" | 22:07 |
| nyergler | nkinkade, don't remember, although i do remember conversations about default to unported in more situations, so that's possible | 22:08 |
| nkinkade | nyergler: So, basically it's operating how we intend it to at the moment? | 22:08 |
| nyergler | i think so, although if there are strong objections, i wouldn't fight making jurisidiction => language too hard | 22:08 |
| nyergler | although i think there are probably lots of cases where you might want to show the jurisdiction chooser, and the language is secondary (ie, leaving it to the browser negotiation is fine) | 22:09 |
| nyergler | mlinksva might remember more clearly than i do | 22:09 |
| nkinkade | nyergler: I agree with you. It's more appropriate, and flexible, to break out lang and juris into two separate things. | 22:11 |
| nkinkade | If you need to set both, then pass both &jurisdiction= and &lang= | 22:12 |
| nyergler | nkinkade, right | 22:16 |
| nyergler | i like explicit better than implicit ;) | 22:16 |
| nkinkade | nyergler: One more thing. Did the old deeds do any content language negotiation with the browser? | 22:21 |
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| paroneayea | wait what | 22:22 |
| paroneayea | didn't notice those messages | 22:22 |
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| paroneayea | okay, yeah so I dunno if the old one did that, when you selected a jurisdiction it changed the language | 22:23 |
| nkinkade | paroneayea: At the moment I'm trying to figure out if the deeds used to do language negotiation with the browser. | 22:23 |
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| CC_Hudson | Asheesh Laroia: Switch to protocol-httpclient, not protocol-http | 22:23 |
| paroneayea | though that seems it would be confusing | 22:23 |
| paroneayea | nkinkade: oh the deeds? | 22:23 |
| nkinkade | paroneayea: Yeah. | 22:23 |
| paroneayea | nkinkade: the deeds didn't | 22:23 |
| nkinkade | I was talking about the chooser before, but I've moved on to the deeds. | 22:23 |
| paroneayea | since they were staticly generated | 22:23 |
| paroneayea | so there's no negotiation, just serving up the deeds | 22:24 |
| nkinkade | paroneayea: That makes sense, and now I feel stupid. | 22:24 |
| nkinkade | L-) | 22:24 |
| paroneayea | :D don't feel stupid | 22:24 |
| paroneayea | since I initially *made* them auto-negotiate | 22:24 |
| paroneayea | before I found out that was wrong because of the static-gen | 22:24 |
| paroneayea | so I made that same mistake | 22:24 |
| paroneayea | however! | 22:24 |
| nyergler_ | nkinkade, sorry | 22:24 |
| paroneayea | in the future we may auto-negotiate | 22:24 |
| nyergler_ | went away | 22:24 |
| paroneayea | there's a ticket: | 22:25 |
| nyergler_ | nkinkade, if the far, far past they used to negotiate for the default view (ie, without deed.xx) | 22:25 |
| paroneayea | http://code.creativecommons.org/issues/issue437 | 22:25 |
| nyergler_ | we changed it to not negotiate ~ 3 years ago | 22:25 |
| paroneayea | http://code.creativecommons.org/issues/issue618 related | 22:25 |
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| nyergler | mralex, http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1940597 | 23:49 |
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