| nkinkade | mralex: Yeah, cached JS. Sorry about the noise. | 00:00 |
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| nathany | paroneayea, i need to head out and run an errand but i have a first cut of the caching middleware working (with 100% test coverage) | 00:03 |
| nathany | need to write a README and then i'll push it to code | 00:03 |
| nathany | (it's in a separate repo from cc.engine) | 00:03 |
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| zzo38 | Can you help with a licensing question http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/icosahedral/icoruma/license.irm | 05:34 |
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| hellyeah | ghey | 09:51 |
| hellyeah | whats up | 09:51 |
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| paroneayea | heya nathany | 17:00 |
| nathany | hey paroneayea | 17:01 |
| paroneayea | sorry I didn't respond last night, missed your message | 17:01 |
| nathany | not a problem, more of an fyi | 17:01 |
| paroneayea | cool | 17:01 |
| paroneayea | nathany, nkinkade: with all the talk of backup stuff we've had, did you guys see this? http://github.com/apenwarr/bup | 17:02 |
| paroneayea | I haven't tried it yet, but it looks kinda promising :) | 17:03 |
| nathany | interesting | 17:03 |
| nathany | the 0.01 version number does make me a little cautious about using it exclusively :) | 17:04 |
| paroneayea | yeah | 17:04 |
| paroneayea | but the idea of doing incremental backups using the git packfile format, and that it allegedly also works with large binary files is really interesting to me | 17:04 |
| nathany | yeah | 17:05 |
| paroneayea | I am thinking of maybe switching my local backups to a two-tier system of rsync for normal backups (non-incremental, currently also use it for incremental backups) and using bup for incremental backups | 17:06 |
| paroneayea | using rsync for incremental backups means you often have a lot of wasted storage space when big files change... | 17:07 |
| nkinkade | paroneayea: It looks pretty interesting, but I don't like the idea that the backups are only accessible via bup or git. | 17:10 |
| nkinkade | The nice thing about dirvish (rsync) is that those files just exist as regular files on the backup machine and it makes it ultra easy to just jump over there and cherry-pick a file using tools that are available on any Unix-like machine. | 17:11 |
| nkinkade | Dirvish uses rsync's ability to create hard links for files that haven't changed, so it's fairly space efficient. | 17:12 |
| paroneayea | hm | 17:13 |
| nkinkade | So we have a weeks worth of running backups, incremental in nature, but full backups when viewed with tools like ls and cp. | 17:14 |
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| nkinkade | If a file doesn't change over the course of a week, then only a single copy of it will actually be on the physical disc, with multiple hard links to it. Most of our files don't change, so we only really backup changed files. | 17:15 |
| nkinkade | I don't particularly like backup systems where your data is all locked up in some format that can only be extracted with 3rd party tools. | 17:16 |
| paroneayea | that makes sense | 17:18 |
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| paroneayea | fff~. | 18:23 |
| paroneayea | oops, ignore | 18:23 |
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| nkinkade | mralex: What is the current external IP of the router? | 18:38 |
| mralex | nkinkade: 71.134.240.36 | 18:39 |
| nkinkade | mralex: Thanks. So that is what dyndns has also, but I'm getting a connection refused with SSH. I assume the backup machine (10.0.2.10) is up? | 18:40 |
| mralex | nkinkade: correct | 18:40 |
| nkinkade | I'm starting to get the feeling that there is a bug in OpenWRT. | 18:40 |
| nkinkade | mralex: Sorry, but would you be able to spare a few minutes to take another quick look at the router with me? It's really not good that I can't access the backup machine. | 18:46 |
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| mralex | nkinkade: k, free now. what do you need me to do? | 18:53 |
| nkinkade | mralex: pm | 18:53 |
| mralex | nathany: http://www.google.com/phone/static/en_US-nexusone_tech_specs.html | 19:00 |
| nathany | mralex, i saw | 19:01 |
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| nathany | paroneayea, http://pypi.python.org/pypi/wsgi_cache | 19:05 |
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| paroneayea | ~. | 19:11 |
| paroneayea | .~. | 19:12 |
| paroneayea | nathany: oo | 19:13 |
| paroneayea | nathany: is that what you are using? | 19:14 |
| nathany | that's what i wrote | 19:16 |
| nathany | paroneayea, ^^ | 19:16 |
| paroneayea | oh! | 19:16 |
| nathany | :) | 19:16 |
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| paroneayea | didn't look at the author line | 19:17 |
| paroneayea | well! | 19:17 |
| paroneayea | actually this also looks perfect for wsgit | 19:18 |
| paroneayea | nathany: thx :) | 19:18 |
| nathany | sure :) | 19:19 |
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| JED3 | paroneayea: boing | 19:22 |
| paroneayea | J | 19:27 |
| paroneayea | JED3: poing | 19:28 |
| paroneayea | sup | 19:28 |
| JED3 | hey, quick q, when is the planned rollout of your cc.engine rework? | 19:28 |
| paroneayea | I don't think there's a specific date, but within the next couple of months | 19:31 |
| JED3 | oh ok | 19:31 |
| paroneayea | prestaging tasks are: | 19:36 |
| paroneayea | - finish static assets (working on that now, almost done) | 19:36 |
| paroneayea | - Finish the couple of remaining "special" license choosers: (public domain, cc0, fsf) | 19:37 |
| paroneayea | - improve unit tests | 19:37 |
| paroneayea | - deploy w/ flup & fastcgi (which, actually I think we just have to *do*, we already know how) | 19:38 |
| paroneayea | so, poststaging tasks: | 19:38 |
| paroneayea | - url reversing (actually, I just added the functionality for this yesterday, just need to make all the links use it) | 19:38 |
| paroneayea | - performance metrics | 19:38 |
| paroneayea | - caching (and nathan just solved that I think) | 19:38 |
| paroneayea | - staging/production strategy and docs | 19:39 |
| paroneayea | so we are almost there | 19:39 |
| paroneayea | I guess I don't think that's going to take the next couple of months. I am just currently trying to tick off tasks as efficiently and quickly as possible. | 19:47 |
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| nkinkade | mralex: Are you edit the Fellows & Interns people page? | 20:40 |
| nkinkade | I just finished adding tvol to the main staff page and was about to remove him from the Fellows page when WP warned me you were editing the page. | 20:40 |
| mralex | oh, yeah, i was about to do that | 21:05 |
| tvol | tvol is HOT TOPIC | 21:11 |
| tvol | ha | 21:11 |
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| nkinkade | mralex: After beating my head against the wall for a while I finally stumbled upon this: | 22:14 |
| nkinkade | https://dev.openwrt.org/ticket/2558 | 22:14 |
| nkinkade | It seems that this has been an on-going problem for a couple years. | 22:15 |
| mralex | nkinkade: ah, intesreting | 22:15 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: did someone report a problem today? | 22:15 |
| nkinkade | The simple workaround which brought it back up immediately is to not specify 10.0.2.10:22, but simply 10.0.2.10 | 22:15 |
| nkinkade | JED3: I did. | 22:15 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: no i meant did someone in the office report one to you? | 22:16 |
| nkinkade | JED3: The problem doesn't affect users in the office, just anyone (me) trying to ssh to the backup machine. | 22:16 |
| nkinkade | It's a bizarre problem that is likely something in the DNAT code released with OpenWRT. There seems to be a simple workaround, though. | 22:17 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: oh okay, i was having an odd issue earlier today, thats only why I ask. | 22:19 |
| nkinkade | When mralex was helping me we briefly broke DNS resolution. It could have been that. | 22:19 |
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| * paroneayea kind of irritated at infrae.subversion | 23:28 | |
| JED3 | paroneayea: using it for www media? | 23:28 |
| paroneayea | well, nothing major, I just think it's dumb that it doesn't allow you to install any other files into the parent directory that the rest of the static files are dumped into | 23:28 |
| paroneayea | yeah | 23:28 |
| paroneayea | but doesn't warn you the first time you buildout | 23:29 |
| paroneayea | only on subsequent buildouts | 23:29 |
| paroneayea | why impose a restriction the second and etc times around but not the first? | 23:29 |
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