Saturday, 2009-09-19

*** aurelia has quit IRC00:17
*** akozak has quit IRC00:18
*** nathany has quit IRC00:21
*** mralex has quit IRC00:41
*** aurelia has joined #cc02:07
*** JoiIto has joined #cc03:00
jibotJoiIto is blogging at http://joi.ito.com/ and the CEO of Creative Commons03:00
*** JED3 has joined #cc03:52
*** JED3 has quit IRC03:58
*** JED3 has joined #cc04:35
*** JED3 has quit IRC04:41
*** JED3 has joined #cc05:28
*** pyrak has joined #cc05:29
jibotpyrak is Parker Phinney and madebyparker.com and a sophomore at Dartmouth and a former CC tech intern05:29
*** everton137 has joined #cc05:59
*** Danny_B has quit IRC06:01
*** JED3 has quit IRC06:09
*** JED3 has joined #cc06:26
*** JED3 has quit IRC06:49
*** aurelia has quit IRC07:26
*** swathanthran has joined #cc08:30
swathanthranis there a photo sharing site of creative commons community?08:36
swathanthranok nevermind;-)08:37
*** swathanthran has quit IRC09:51
*** Danny_B has joined #cc10:44
*** JoiIto has quit IRC11:31
*** swathanthran has joined #cc12:05
*** swathanthran has quit IRC12:21
*** pyrak has quit IRC13:22
*** greg-g has quit IRC13:24
*** greg-g has joined #cc13:25
*** paulproteus has quit IRC13:52
*** JoiIto has joined #cc15:00
jibotJoiIto is blogging at http://joi.ito.com/ and the CEO of Creative Commons15:00
*** sama has joined #cc15:07
*** everton137 has quit IRC15:20
*** mecredis has quit IRC15:26
*** nathany has joined #cc15:40
*** nathany has quit IRC15:53
*** sama has quit IRC16:35
*** paulproteus has joined #cc16:48
jibotpaulproteus is Asheesh Laroia & TWiki: asheesh.org & blogs.jhu.edu! & aka Johnny Pancakes & wiki.jhu.edu! & quotes blog: blogs.jhu.edu/~gooftroop & kindablog: blogs.jhu.edu/~paulproteus & back from uganda - blog at http://uganda.laroia.net/ & hash-joiito@asheesh.org & DanMark approved for humor & graduated from jhu.edu in '07 & on Creative Commons tech staff & seeing robots where there are none & a crayon16:48
*** tvol has joined #cc16:53
*** tvol has quit IRC17:08
paroneayeahello17:56
*** JoiIto has quit IRC17:59
paroneayeamorning18:08
paroneayeaoh18:08
paroneayeaI already said hello.18:08
*** aurelia has joined #cc18:49
*** aurelia has quit IRC19:17
*** swathanthran has joined #cc19:48
*** aurelia has joined #cc20:21
*** everton137 has joined #cc20:24
*** swathanthran has quit IRC20:58
*** JoiIto has joined #cc21:24
jibotJoiIto is blogging at http://joi.ito.com/ and the CEO of Creative Commons21:24
*** Sonja has joined #cc21:36
Sonjahi21:36
Sonjaif i choose by-nc instead of by-nc-sa, does that mean that people making their remixes can choose to copyright them?21:37
Sonjato their name?21:37
greg-gthey still must attribute it something like "based on SomeWork by Sonja" with a link to you.21:40
greg-gSonja: also, see section 4(c) here: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/legalcode21:40
Sonjathere seems to be a lot of arguments against using BY-NC such as here http://freedomdefined.org/NC21:48
Sonjai'm researching if i should consider them and switch to SA instead or21:48
Sonjaah, so a remix of a by-nc could use by-nc-nd for example21:54
*** JoiIto has quit IRC21:58
*** pyrak has joined #cc22:01
jibotpyrak is Parker Phinney and madebyparker.com and a sophomore at Dartmouth and a former CC tech intern22:01
*** AlexandreMBM has joined #cc22:04
AlexandreMBMBoa noite!22:04
AlexandreMBMTenho uma dúvida. Alguém pode conversar em português comigo?22:05
AlexandreMBMHello! Good night!22:06
AlexandreMBMI have a question.22:06
AlexandreMBMDo I can to merge http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/br/ and http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.5/br/deed.pt (two works) in a work in http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.5/br/deed.pt?22:07
greg-gyou want to make a derivative of a BY-NC and a BY-NC-SA work? Then that work MUST be BY-NC-SA.22:09
AlexandreMBMOK.22:09
AlexandreMBMgreg-g, thank you.22:10
greg-gSonja: yes, NC is discouraged because of many reasons, one of which is Freedom, another of which is clarity of that "non commercial" means to everyone22:10
greg-gAlexandreMBM: you're welcome22:10
*** Anilo has joined #cc22:34
Sonjaare there any licences that are similar to NC but allow non-competitive commercial uses, like adding Google Ads to their website, or allow people in 3rd world countries to use my work commercially, etc.22:53
greg-gSonja: no, CC licenses do not discriminate based on geolocation or type of commercial use.23:04
Sonjai guess i can use the by-nc-sa licence and then add a line below it saying that as the copyright holder I am OK with this and this other use23:05
*** everton137 has quit IRC23:06
greg-gyes, but I would personally suggest just dropping the NC clause then, as no matter how clear you are that will only add more confusion. And, the stuff you add will not be a recognized standard set of rights. And, there is no garuantee that this extra list of OK things will be with each reproduction of the work. Basically, that would be deminishing many of the reasons to use a CC license :)23:07
greg-gBUT! As copyright holder, you of course _can_ do that.23:07
Sonjaif i drop NC, though, then somebody can take my entire book and publish physical copies themself for profit23:08
greg-gI am heading out for the night now. Feel free to leave more quesitons here (with the caveat that it is a saturday night and not many people lurk her then) or join the cc-community mailing list23:09
Sonjaoki. thanks greg!23:09
greg-gno problem, have a good night.23:09
*** Sonja has quit IRC23:49
*** aurelia has quit IRC23:49

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.6 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!