Thursday, 2009-09-03

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RewbieThread posted and e-mailed.00:07
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jibotNotADJ is TheDJAtClubRock & , coincidentally, not a DJ. & a Pothead & lying about the pothead thing & Mr.Cool & a spook & a spoon & tired. & NOT A POTHEAD.04:41
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jibotNotADJ is TheDJAtClubRock & , coincidentally, not a DJ. & a Pothead & lying about the pothead thing & Mr.Cool & a spook & a spoon & tired. & NOT A POTHEAD.06:26
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jibotNotADJ is TheDJAtClubRock & , coincidentally, not a DJ. & a Pothead & lying about the pothead thing & Mr.Cool & a spook & a spoon & tired. & NOT A POTHEAD.06:39
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jibotJoiIto is blogging at http://joi.ito.com/ & Jonkichi (A) & Tasmanian (H) on Eitrigg (US) on WoW & I'm sure he'll be pleased to know he is once again in jeanniecool's good graces & All hail supreme ruler of the channel! (Trumpets!) & was internet famous more than once & some guy & the healthiest guy in the # & down with the dog that looks like a Panda & easy to add to trusted devices if you pretend t be Tom Coates. & the synthesis of idealism and capitalism & at ht07:44
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jibotJoiIto is blogging at http://joi.ito.com/ and the CEO of Creative Commons08:34
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jibotmecredis is Fred Benenson. He works as Creative Commons' Culture Program Associate in NYC and joined the board of SFC after starting Free Culture @ NYU & Fred Benenson. He founded Free Culture @ NYU and graduated in May of 2005. He currently lives in New York City and works as a freelance web developer and a FreeCulture activist. He may or may not be a board member of FreeCulture.org but has worked for Creative Commons and volunteered for the EFF. & Fred Benenson.09:03
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jibotrobmyers is Rob Myers and going to talk about freedom. Ignore him.10:27
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jibotjonsson is Karl Jonsson, a Swedish law student & Karl Jonsson, a Swedish law student. He blogs @ http://www.cyberlaw.se/kalle & Karl Jonsson, a Swedish law student. He sometimes updates his web page @ www.cyberlaw.se & A Swedish lawyer who works for CC Sweden and has a blog -@ http://www.cyberlaw.se/kalle & a Swedish lawyer working for CC Sweden and blogging @- http://www.cyberlaw.se/kalle & a Swedish lawyer working for CC Sweden and blogging @@ http://www.cyberla10:28
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jibotJoiIto is blogging at http://joi.ito.com/ and the CEO of Creative Commons10:28
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jibotmlinksva is from Creative Commons and Mike Linksvayer13:27
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jibotjgay is http://www.gnu.org/people/speakers.html#Gay14:10
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paroneayeahm, can't seem to push this branch15:27
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paroneayeankinkade: ping15:59
nkinkadea7?15:59
paroneayeais that what hosts git.ccommons.org?15:59
paroneayeabecause yeah, I can't connect to it16:00
nkinkadeYeah.  I'm rebooting it now.  Responds to pings, but everything else seems gone.16:00
nkinkadeparoneayea: Do you have the info to reboot the servers in emergencies?16:00
paroneayeankinkade: nope16:01
nkinkadeparoneayea: Look in you home dir on a5.16:02
nkinkadeIf you login there, there is a RapidReboot option for each of the servers.  When they are completely unresponsive, which isn't too often, we resort to that.16:03
paroneayeaah okay, thx16:03
nkinkadeGenerally Nathan and/or I are on top of that, but if we aren't then feel free to do what is necessary to get a machine back up and running.16:03
paroneayeacool, thx for the info16:05
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jibotakozak is Alex Kozak, Program Assistant at ccLearn and SFC@Berkeley co-founder and a norse god16:29
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JED3nkinkade: ping16:52
nkinkadeJED3: Hi.16:53
JED3What is your experience with Apache SNI configurations? basically allows you to have multiple ssl vhost's for a single ip16:54
nkinkadeJED3: I've never used it.16:55
JED3yeah I was browsing the apache docs and stumbled across and thought "humph, never seen this before"16:55
JED3http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/NameBasedSSLVHostsWithSNI16:55
JED3its only supported for more modern browsers though16:56
JED3but thought it could be of use for our staging environments16:56
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paroneayeaoh right, nkinkade17:31
nkinkadeparoneayea: ?17:32
paroneayeaI need someplace to dump a python egg17:32
paroneayeagot a good static-served directory?17:32
nkinkadeparoneayea: On which server?17:33
paroneayeadoesn't matter :)17:33
paroneayeajust has to be someplace accessible from the intarwebs17:33
nkinkade~/cwebber/public_html/  ??17:33
nkinkadeSomething permanent or just for testing?17:33
paroneayeaeventually we'll want something more permanent, but that's fine for testing for now17:34
paroneayeamaybe nathany will know where he wants to dump these, a better path17:34
paroneayeaI'm not sure as much about his ideas for that so a temporary place is just fine17:34
paroneayeais that already being served?17:34
nkinkade \/var/www/<domain> is  a good dir17:34
paroneayeaah okay17:34
paroneayeawhich server?17:34
nkinkadeAny server.17:35
paroneayea:)17:35
paroneayeaokay17:35
JED3paroneayea: what is the egg?17:35
nkinkadeIt's why content goes in /var/www/<domain>/www17:35
paroneayeaJED3: the new license.rdf stuff17:35
paroneayeawe're rolling it into its own package17:35
nkinkadeMisc things that don't get served directly can go below www17:35
nkinkade(or above, depending on your perspective)17:35
paroneayeankinkade: gotcha17:35
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pyraklol re: perspective18:20
paulproteusparoneayea, ~/public_html/ is your friend18:48
greg-g"I don't know the legal interns. They aren't on IRC so I never talk to them" <- me18:49
paulproteusI think we got Brian Rowe onto IRC!18:50
greg-ga few times, I think18:53
paulproteusYou know, #ccinterns is still on my auto-join.18:56
paroneayeapaulproteus: nkinkade: btw, where does my ~/public_html/ point to? :)19:02
nkinkadehttp://<domain>/~cwebber/19:02
paulproteushttp://$hostname/~username/19:03
nkinkadeparoneayea: ^^19:03
paroneayeaah okay19:03
paroneayeaeggcellent19:03
nkinkade$hostname is so much better than <domain> ... I'm ashamed.19:03
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akozakhaha19:09
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pyrak$ashamed19:17
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paroneayeaweird.19:44
paroneayealooking at all these docs, this *should be working*19:44
paroneayeaeasy_install --find-links http://a9.creativecommons.org/~cwebber/eggs/ cc.licenserdf19:45
paroneayeathat works great19:45
paroneayeabut adding find_links option pointing at that directory and making cc.licenserdf a requirement doesn't work19:45
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johndoigiiiyay office is alive again20:19
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jibotmlinksva_ is a dog kicker20:21
nkinkadeJED3: Did you do something to get the Internet back up in the office?20:25
johndoigiiiI don't think it was anything I did, pretty sure it was a loss on the ISP20:27
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nkinkadeI was installing OpenVPN on the router and it stalled.  I think it filled up the filesystem.20:28
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nkinkadeIn the 1.5 years or so that I was in that office I had to go through sequence 2 or 3 times.20:28
JED3http://teamspace.creativecommons.org/SF_what_to_do_when_the_Internet_goes_down20:30
JED3this appears to be pretty out of date20:31
JED3am I wrong?20:31
nkinkadeJED3: It's pretty old, but it's not out of date.20:47
nkinkadeWhat seems wrong about it to you?20:47
JED3ohh okay, nothing really, for some reason I thought I had recalled hearing someone say we were using comcast business20:48
nkinkadeStill AT&T ... something through Yahoo! and AT&T, actually.20:49
JED3ohh okay20:49
JED3ddwrt on that linksys?20:49
nkinkadeOpenWRT.20:53
JED3ahh20:53
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akozak_What's the value of that teamspace page if no one can access it :)21:04
paroneayeaokay, so21:12
paroneayeaMANIFEST.in is telling my egg to include these non-python files, but21:12
paroneayeawhen buildout unzips them it doesn't keep anything but the python files?21:13
paulproteusakozak_, duh, via your phone's 'net connection (-:21:14
akozak_paulproteus, don't have that luxury quite yet21:15
akozak_:(21:15
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nkinkadeakozak: It has no value, which is why I emailed to 4 or 5 people about 1.5 years ago, and why a copy exists on the backup server for someone to access.21:18
nkinkadeIt's on Teamspace only for the sake of completeness and backup.21:18
akozakwell haven't you thought of everything :)21:18
paroneayeaJED3: how much experience do you have with setuptools?21:34
JED3less than desired, what's the issue?21:35
paroneayeaJED3: try doing an install of this package: http://a9.creativecommons.org/~cwebber/eggs/cc.licenserdf-0.1.tar.gz21:39
paroneayeayou'll see that it contains a ton of xml files and etc21:39
paroneayeabut it removes them when doing the actual install21:39
JED3paroneayea: 1 sec, setting up virtualenv21:44
JED3haha, i just spent a lot of time saying to myself "where the hell is the licenserdf package?" after easy_installing and realize thats the problem you were asking about21:53
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paroneayeaJED3: heh21:55
JED3have you tried toying with your find_packages line in setup.py?21:57
JED3... such as find_packages('cc')21:57
paroneayeauh21:57
paroneayeahaven't tried that yet, investigating21:58
JED3or setting the packages variable with a static list21:59
JED3such as ['cc.licenserdf']22:00
paroneayealooking into that22:02
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paroneayeaJED3: figured it out!22:13
paroneayeainclude_package_data = True22:13
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johndoigiiiparoneayea: cool, what was it?22:17
nkinkadejohndoigiii: What happened?22:19
johndoigiiirebooted just fine22:19
nkinkadejohndoigiii: IP must have changed ... dyndns hasn't picked it up yet.22:20
nkinkadeDo you have the IP?22:20
johndoigiiii'm able to ssh in now, yeah one secx22:20
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johndoigiiippp0:71.135.3.10422:21
nkinkadejohndoigiii: Looks like whatever I did was just bungling some filesystem in memory, thank heaven.22:24
johndoigiiihmm, what was it you were doing again in the first place?22:25
johndoigiiitrying to install OpenVPN?22:25
johndoigiiiparoneayea: you there?22:32
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nkinkadeJED3: Yeah, I was trying to install openvpn.22:47
nkinkadeIt might have been working, but it looked hung to me.22:47
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