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| geniice | "Collection" means a collection of literary or artistic works, such as encyclopedias and anthologies, or performances, phonograms or broadcasts, or other works or subject matter other than works listed in Section 1(f) below | 13:01 |
| geniice | Section 1(f) doesn't list any works | 13:02 |
| geniice | in full it's ""Licensor" means the individual, individuals, entity or entities that offer(s) the Work under the terms of this License." | 13:02 |
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| pyrak | any idea where i can get at the actual html for validator.creativecommons.org | 17:53 |
| pyrak | ? | 17:53 |
| pyrak | i thought i'd be able to find it in the libvalidator git repo, but no luck | 17:53 |
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| JED3 | has there been any talk about supporting <video> on cc.org? | 19:24 |
| greg-g | JED3: I think we already do, no? I thought mecredis did it once in a blog post. What is there for us to do other than to actually insert <video> tags? | 19:26 |
| JED3 | well have it fallback to flash if the browser does not support it | 19:27 |
| Bovinity | the issue was having videos on the homepage | 19:27 |
| Bovinity | we otherwise need a fallback solution that doesn't suck and/or fail | 19:28 |
| greg-g | JED3: http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/13145 | 19:28 |
| JED3 | greg-g: very cool, I was referring to cc.org/videos/ | 19:29 |
| JED3 | such as a-shared-culture | 19:29 |
| greg-g | oh, my bad | 19:29 |
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| Bovinity | JED3: if you can ensure it'll fallback to flash video without breaking, then go ahead and test it | 19:31 |
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| Bovinity | the other problem is Firefox supports mpeg and ogg; safari supports quicktime and mpeg; IE supports neither and might even fail at falling back. | 19:31 |
| JED3 | sure i'll play with it, but I was just curious if it had already been discussed | 19:31 |
| Bovinity | conclusion of discussion was more testing required. :) | 19:32 |
| JED3 | haha okay | 19:34 |
| greg-g | Bovinity: IE supports only wmv or something stupid? | 19:41 |
| greg-g | or no <video> at all? | 19:41 |
| Bovinity | greg-g: either it supports wmv, MS's own crazy mpeg4 derivative, or nothing | 19:42 |
| Bovinity | probably nothing | 19:42 |
| greg-g | Bovinity: bah | 19:43 |
| Bovinity | guh, google is increasingly useless at searching | 19:43 |
| JED3 | sure is, I hate to say it but Bing has been pretty useful lately (shutters) | 19:44 |
| Bovinity | oh look, yahoo found useful results righta way | 19:44 |
| Bovinity | "ie8 video tag" gave me thigns i wanted, instead of blog posts tagged with video | 19:45 |
| Bovinity | "IE8 doesn't support the video tag at all, future IEs are probably unlikely to." | 19:45 |
| Bovinity | http://plumi.org/ticket/237 is why we can't have nice things | 19:46 |
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| nkinkade | Bovinity: What's the situation with the jurisdiction dropdown behind the International link? It doesn't seem to do anything. | 19:59 |
| JED3 | pyrak: re you question about i18n, no you will not have to go through all of the translation strings and add the bold tags | 20:05 |
| pyrak | JED3, orly? | 20:06 |
| pyrak | JED3, so i18n just knows to skip around html tags? | 20:07 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: it should be working as normal.... is it not? | 20:10 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: Didn't seem to do anything for me. | 20:10 |
| JED3 | pyrak: http://translate.creativecommons.org | 20:10 |
| nkinkade | Maybe it's just my browser. | 20:10 |
| JED3 | have you been there? | 20:10 |
| nkinkade | I did an update earlier .... maybe Firefox got updated and I need to restart it. | 20:10 |
| JED3 | that might help explain some of the i18n magic | 20:10 |
| JED3 | for instance, here is the french translation for ccsearch as it stands right now | 20:11 |
| JED3 | http://translate.creativecommons.org/fr/ccsearch/LC_MESSAGES/ccsearch.po?translate=1&view=1 | 20:11 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: yeah, i'm on a 3.5 RC release... it was working before, and now i see it not | 20:11 |
| Bovinity | unless something changed with the jurisdictions.js | 20:12 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: I'll create a ticket, unless you see the problem immediately. | 20:12 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: nope, i don't see the problem, nor have resources to look into it right now | 20:13 |
| nkinkade | Okay, I'll create a ticket an assign it to myself. I've got some spare bandwidth right now. | 20:13 |
| pyrak | JED3, okay, so pootle makes translation pretty painless. nonetheless, adding html tags to a block of text breaks their translations | 20:19 |
| pyrak | meaning, they have to be translated again | 20:19 |
| JED3 | ahh, I see what you are asking now. I thought the text was changing anyways | 20:20 |
| JED3 | so yes, they will need to be translated again | 20:20 |
| pyrak | not all of it. but it might. i want to take some liberties with it to make it prettier | 20:21 |
| pyrak | but maybe it's more important that we just get a working version out the door? | 20:21 |
| pyrak | i dont know | 20:21 |
| pyrak | here's what i know: i need a sandwich | 20:21 |
| pyrak | brb | 20:21 |
| JED3 | oh okay, well just changing one word will require it to be translated, but don't let that be a huge deterrent. if it needs to be changed for the better, do it | 20:22 |
| pyrak | new question, should i say _('sentence with <em>emphasis</em> and stuff') | 20:38 |
| nkinkade | JED3: I did just an svn up on cc.engine on staging. There was a conflict with ccdeed.js, and I had it just use the version from the repository. | 20:38 |
| nkinkade | It just occurred to me that that might have been the wrong move. | 20:38 |
| pyrak | or: _('sentence with ') <em> _('emphasis') .. you get the idea | 20:38 |
| JED3 | pyrak: the first example | 20:39 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: taking a look now | 20:39 |
| nkinkade | Just after I did it, I realized that you may have been implementing something new there. | 20:40 |
| nkinkade | If you were, hopefully you've got the changes elsewhere :-/ | 20:40 |
| JED3 | yeah I was, but it should be fine | 20:40 |
| nkinkade | Sorry about that ... just a brief lapse in judgment. | 20:41 |
| JED3 | no problem | 20:42 |
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| pyrak | bump: any idea where the html for validator.cc.org is version controlled? doesn't seem to be in libvalidator... | 20:56 |
| pyrak | unless i missed something... | 20:56 |
| JED3 | whoa cvs? | 20:58 |
| pyrak | we have cvs repos? | 21:01 |
| Bovinity | back from when sourceforge was cvs empowered | 21:01 |
| JED3 | pyrak: clone validator.git | 21:02 |
| JED3 | oh nm | 21:03 |
| JED3 | documentation is wrong | 21:03 |
| pyrak | is it possible that the html isn't in version control? | 21:06 |
| JED3 | pyrak: its out there somewhere | 21:06 |
| JED3 | http://wiki.creativecommons.org/CcValidator | 21:06 |
| pyrak | maybe it _is_ in libvalidator, and i'm just too stupid to see it | 21:07 |
| JED3 | at the very least it should be on Google code somewhere, seeing how it was a gsoc project | 21:07 |
| pyrak | JED3, maybe it has to do with pylons? | 21:08 |
| pyrak | (must we construct additional ones?) | 21:09 |
| JED3 | http://google-summer-of-code-2008-cc.googlecode.com/files/Hugo_Dworak.tar.gz | 21:11 |
| JED3 | is it in there? | 21:11 |
| JED3 | not versioned obviously, but that might help | 21:12 |
| pyrak | JED3, yarp, it's there | 21:14 |
| JED3 | kewl, that help? | 21:15 |
| JED3 | wow... cool* | 21:15 |
| pyrak | JED3, yes. i mean, perhaps the most logical thing to do is look at the actual html files on the server | 21:16 |
| pyrak | and see if they're version controlled | 21:16 |
| JED3 | I just did, and they aren't | 21:16 |
| pyrak | okay, cool | 21:16 |
| pyrak | well, uncool | 21:16 |
| JED3 | well they are but by cvs | 21:16 |
| pyrak | but okay | 21:16 |
| JED3 | check sf.net | 21:16 |
| pyrak | aaah, ic | 21:16 |
| JED3 | might be a project there | 21:16 |
| pyrak | yeah, i didn't see it on sf | 21:16 |
| JED3 | oh ok | 21:16 |
| pyrak | http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=80503 | 21:17 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: This fixes the juris. dropdown: http://pastebin.com/d866890b | 21:17 |
| nkinkade | But I'm confused about the orderby(this) onchange property that was there before. | 21:18 |
| Bovinity | me too | 21:18 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: I'll implement that on the live site unless you know of some reason why that isn't right. | 21:18 |
| Bovinity | there has to be a reason for that, but none is clear | 21:18 |
| nkinkade | haha | 21:18 |
| JED3 | hmm, i don't remember making a change like that, but it may have crept in from the work on the changes to the chooser | 21:19 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Okay for me to go ahead with this small patch? | 21:20 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: looking over my code right now and I don't see that orderby function so i don't think it was me | 21:20 |
| nkinkade | It's a mystery. Seems wrong to me, so I'll just commit it. | 21:21 |
| JED3 | yeah go ahead and patch it, grep didn't find anything | 21:21 |
| akozak | JED3: Do you have a timeline for CC Network? I'm wondering when a good time would be to start talking about integrating it into OpenEd. | 21:35 |
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| pyrak | interestingly, there's a blurb about publicity rights at http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/ | 22:31 |
| pyrak | more interestingly, it only appears when you choose certain languages | 22:31 |
| pyrak | like german and norwegian | 22:32 |
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