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| akozak | Bovinity: any idea why a bunch of changes I made to learn-staging productions page would be missing? | 17:05 |
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| Bovinity | akozak: nope | 17:06 |
| akozak | its like I never touched it | 17:06 |
| akozak | Bovinity: nevermind, it has the revisions... it just reverted back for some weird reason | 17:09 |
| mecredis | revert war! | 17:14 |
| Bovinity | steven colbert did it | 17:15 |
| akozak | bah, it did it again | 17:19 |
| akozak | i dont get it, its reverting back to an april 6th save a minute after I update it. do I need to re-publish? | 17:20 |
| akozak | damn you colbert | 17:29 |
| akozak | paulproteus: remember when we were trying to figure out how to get SMW to output a list of unique tags? http://tw.rpi.edu/portal/Help:ArrayExtension | 17:44 |
| akozak | greate extension | 17:44 |
| akozak | great* | 17:44 |
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| mecredis | Bovinity: check out the CCN architecture diagram | 17:51 |
| mecredis | in the board report | 17:51 |
| mecredis | let me know if its the wrong direction / too much effort | 17:51 |
| Bovinity | slide #? | 17:51 |
| mecredis | #16 | 17:51 |
| Bovinity | what did you do it in? | 17:53 |
| mecredis | hrm | 17:53 |
| mecredis | I made the diagram | 17:53 |
| mecredis | oh | 17:53 |
| mecredis | the custom shapes thingy | 17:53 |
| mecredis | it might be exportable | 17:53 |
| mecredis | double click it | 17:53 |
| Bovinity | oh, in docs? | 17:53 |
| mecredis | yeah, believe it or not | 17:54 |
| mecredis | yeah, it'll export as svg | 17:54 |
| Bovinity | neat | 17:54 |
| mecredis | its fun, pretty powerful and stable | 17:54 |
| Bovinity | yeah, it's a nice start, a little untidy | 17:54 |
| mecredis | right | 17:54 |
| mecredis | can I assume you'll take care of it | 17:54 |
| mecredis | or? | 17:54 |
| Bovinity | yep | 17:55 |
| mecredis | ok thanks | 17:55 |
| mecredis | I wanted you to get the idea of what it should look like | 17:55 |
| mecredis | but obviously don't have to use those icons, etc. | 17:55 |
| Bovinity | they're very demitri martin ;) | 17:56 |
| mecredis | heh | 17:56 |
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| nathany | johndoigiii: didn't you send a link to a prototype of the web citation feature? | 18:03 |
| johndoigiii | yes I did | 18:04 |
| nathany | er, i can't find it :) | 18:04 |
| johndoigiii | its in the git repo, branch webcitations, and I think staging is still on that branch | 18:04 |
| nathany | got it | 18:04 |
| nathany | thanks | 18:04 |
| johndoigiii | john/john | 18:05 |
| johndoigiii | http://staging.creativecommons.net/c/?http://www.flickr.com/photos/rtkim/2647588741/ here is the example i used | 18:05 |
| akozak | nathany: figured out how to query for pages that don't have any values for a certain property | 18:06 |
| nathany | akozak: cool | 18:06 |
| nathany | another extension? | 18:06 |
| akozak | sort of. I used ArrayExtension to define a property as the size of an array that contains those values | 18:07 |
| akozak | and then you can query for 0 | 18:07 |
| mecredis | johndoigiii: not sure if this is intentional, but its not pulling the flickr photo for those citations | 18:07 |
| johndoigiii | yeah I never finished that part | 18:08 |
| nathany | johndoigiii: did we wind up figuring out what the problem was with HTTP v HTTPS sessions? | 18:08 |
| nathany | (ie, getting a new session) | 18:08 |
| johndoigiii | it could be hacked to work for flickr, but would be worthless for other citations so i didn't put any time into it | 18:08 |
| johndoigiii | nathany: yes, one sec | 18:10 |
| nathany | no rush, just curious | 18:10 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: Did you get a SMS that translate went down? | 18:52 |
| nkinkade | I got the one that it was OK, but not the one for the problem. Clearly this is less than ideal. :-) | 18:53 |
| nathany | nkinkade: that's what i got as well | 18:55 |
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| nkinkade | Now the CRITICAL SMS just arrived. Must have been some holdup with mail ... seems that Nagios did it's job. | 19:07 |
| Bovinity | mecredis: your cards are on order; i'll forward the UPS tracker when i get it | 19:11 |
| mecredis | great | 19:14 |
| mecredis | thanks | 19:14 |
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| nathany | greg-g: shit | 20:32 |
| nathany | sorry, i'm a couple minutes late | 20:32 |
| greg-g | nathany: no worries, just chilln | 20:34 |
| akozak | nkinkade: what tag/branch do you pull from from the mediawiki svn for opened (if you know off the top of your head, just curious) | 20:39 |
| nkinkade | akozak: We don't | 20:40 |
| Bovinity | http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/branches/REL1_14/phase3 | 20:40 |
| nkinkade | The OpenEd site is running from a subversion checkout from Mediawiki's repository. | 20:40 |
| akozak | that's what I meant | 20:41 |
| Bovinity | akozak: ^ that one | 20:41 |
| akozak | thanks Bovinity | 20:42 |
| akozak | Bovinity: do you know what the difference between tags and branches are in their repository? | 20:42 |
| Bovinity | no clue, i just svn info'd the checkout | 20:42 |
| akozak | ok thanks | 20:42 |
| johndoigiii | nkinkade: you have a second to help me out with a Varnish issue? | 20:43 |
| nkinkade | johndoigiii: Sure. | 20:44 |
| johndoigiii | ... its in reference to the HTTPS redirects for CC Network, I think we discussed this about a week ago | 20:44 |
| nkinkade | Yeah. | 20:44 |
| johndoigiii | where when a redirect happens, the session cookie is changing for the application | 20:44 |
| nkinkade | The HTTPS redirect happens in Apache at the moment. | 20:44 |
| johndoigiii | yes, but for the staging vhost, the apache redirects are disabled and the app is handling the redirects | 20:46 |
| nkinkade | What's the question you have? | 20:46 |
| johndoigiii | ha, can we take down Varnish for the staging.cc.net? | 20:47 |
| nkinkade | How do you mean? Just pass all traffic for staging.CC.net right through Varnish? | 20:48 |
| johndoigiii | yes | 20:48 |
| nkinkade | Yeah, that's easy to do. Would you like for me to do it now? | 20:48 |
| johndoigiii | yes plz if you don't mind | 20:48 |
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| nkinkade | johndoigiii: Done. | 20:51 |
| nkinkade | Varnish will still touch the request, but as soon as it sees that it's staging.CC.net it'll just pass it to the configured backed. | 20:51 |
| nkinkade | No caching or anything else. | 20:51 |
| pyrak | heh. turns out oop in php is even weirder than i had thought | 20:52 |
| johndoigiii | nkinkade, hmm so when it passes through varnish do it retain the remote ip of the request? or is it now localhost? | 20:54 |
| nkinkade | I think your app will see 127.0.0.1 | 20:54 |
| nkinkade | You can check that. | 20:55 |
| johndoigiii | yeah I am pretty sure it is, I think thats where the problem lies | 20:55 |
| nkinkade | Varnish does add the X-Forwarded-For header, so you should be able to grab the clients real IP with that. | 20:55 |
| johndoigiii | okay | 20:55 |
| nkinkade | Inspect the headers and it should be there. Our installs of Mediawiki use that header to report the client's real IP, so I know it's there. | 20:56 |
| johndoigiii | nkinkade: thanks, for your help | 21:04 |
| nkinkade | Did that work for you? | 21:04 |
| johndoigiii | no it didn't | 21:05 |
| nkinkade | You couldn't grab the XFF header? | 21:09 |
| johndoigiii | still working on that part | 21:12 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: Do you know anything about z/support and javascript with Drupal? | 21:30 |
| nkinkade | It seems to not be loading JS at all. | 21:31 |
| Bovinity | that sounds weird | 21:31 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: what pages aren't working for you? or reported to not work. | 21:32 |
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| nkinkade | Bovinity: Nobody reported it. I've been trying to get Ubercart going and then I realized all my problems are because not a single JS file is getting added by Drupal. | 21:38 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: oh, Ubercart's JS isn't loading into the <head> properly? | 21:39 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: Right. | 21:40 |
| nkinkade | But neither is Drupal's JS. | 21:40 |
| Bovinity | i see there are some differences on included JS between zupport and support | 21:41 |
| nkinkade | There's a Drupal function called drupal_add_js() ... you can call that function to add some JS to a queue that Drupal keeps before it creates the page. I can view the contents of the queue, but not one thing from the queue is getting written. | 21:41 |
| nkinkade | for example, /includes/jquery.js is not getting included, but I suspect it should be and this is totally separate from Ubercart. | 21:42 |
| nkinkade | I was wondering if maybe you had some insight into this, or had tweaked something for the theme, etc. | 21:42 |
| nkinkade | Tell me you did, and I'll be very happy. | 21:42 |
| Bovinity | maybe tehre's a missing function call to insert the js queue? | 21:42 |
| Bovinity | but things are getting loaded on support, so i don't think anything is missing | 21:43 |
| Bovinity | jquery, etc | 21:43 |
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| nkinkade | Hmm. So zupport has a problem. | 21:44 |
| nkinkade | That's discouraging. | 21:45 |
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| nkinkade | Bovinity: You're right. It looks like support is loading the JS properly for Drupal. | 21:45 |
| nkinkade | Hey Bovinity, do you have anything special going on on zupport? | 21:46 |
| nkinkade | I've got a mind to just checkout the production site on zupport. | 21:46 |
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| Bovinity | nope, all my recent changes are synced | 21:46 |
| nkinkade | Maybe even copy the live database, so we've got updated info in there. | 21:46 |
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| johndoigiii | nkinkade, wow stupid error on my behalf | 21:56 |
| nkinkade | Glad to hear that it wasn't my stupid error, which I do often. :-) | 21:56 |
| johndoigiii | haha | 21:57 |
| johndoigiii | so the problem is what I mentioned last week, that we have the 66.135.59.46:443 in the regular cc.net vhost | 21:58 |
| johndoigiii | well https request to staging.cc.net are also that same ip, port | 21:58 |
| johndoigiii | so its redirecting between staging to production | 21:58 |
| * johndoigiii picks up his dunce cap | 21:59 | |
| johndoigiii | so i think we will need an extra ip assigned to a9, for our CC Network staging instance | 22:00 |
| johndoigiii | I can write up an explanation to send forward to the isp/hosting if you'd like | 22:00 |
| nkinkade | johndoigiii: Extra IPs are only $1/mo I think, we just have to request them. | 22:03 |
| nkinkade | I can put in an order if you want. | 22:03 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Any issues with me requesting an extra IP for a9? | 22:03 |
| johndoigiii | okay, unless you know of another way of setting up the vhost to listen on staging.cc.net:443 so that the cc.net (66.135.59.46:443) config doesn't match as well? | 22:04 |
| nathany | nkinkade: this is an additional IP for staging.cc.net? | 22:06 |
| nkinkade | I think so. | 22:06 |
| nathany | i'm fine with that | 22:06 |
| nathany | sure, coolio | 22:07 |
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| nkinkade | johndoigiii: I just submitted a request for an additional IP. | 22:11 |
| johndoigiii | awesome, thanks | 22:11 |
| nkinkade | If they are going to let us do it, then it should be up by tomorrow. | 22:11 |
| akozak | moar ip | 22:13 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: is CC.org supposed to validate? | 22:39 |
| nkinkade | The DOCTYPE is XHTML 1.0 Strict. | 22:39 |
| Bovinity | O_o | 22:39 |
| nkinkade | I feel like you sorted out the validation a while back, but there are errors again. | 22:40 |
| nkinkade | Someone just wrote info@ about it. | 22:40 |
| Bovinity | that's strange. shouldn't be, unless i put it in there to make IE play nice | 22:40 |
| Bovinity | how nice of them | 22:40 |
| nkinkade | :-) | 22:40 |
| nkinkade | It would be good if it validated. | 22:40 |
| nkinkade | Considering that we tout web standards and such. | 22:41 |
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| Bovinity | true. | 22:41 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: On another front, I made support a checkout of the production code but still no dice ... it must be something in the database. | 22:41 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: regarding the validation, can I reply saying that we'll be looking into it, or is this something that we're not going to put time into? | 22:42 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: since we're doing donor related changes, it would probably be a good idea to reset the DB with more current production data | 22:43 |
| Bovinity | and settings | 22:43 |
| nkinkade | Cool. I'll just backup the old zupport database and dump a fresh clone of the live one for zupport. | 22:43 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: we'll look into fixing it. (but it's super low priority) | 22:43 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: I'll create a ticket for the validation thing. | 22:44 |
| pyrak | FWIW: i have some experience hacking html and css to validate strict. that's something i could work on. | 23:07 |
| nkinkade | pyrak: That would be great. | 23:08 |
| nkinkade | Of course, it's something to run by NRY first. | 23:08 |
| pyrak | sure. he just gave me a list of 3 other things which will probably take priority, but i can append this anyway :) | 23:08 |
| nkinkade | Why not? :-) | 23:08 |
| nkinkade | pyrak: I created this ticket: http://code.creativecommons.org/issues/issue389 | 23:09 |
| nkinkade | Feel free to make yourself nosy on it, or to add to it. | 23:09 |
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| nkinkade | Bovinity: Upgrading the Drupal database on zupport ssems to have fixed it. Go figured. | 23:10 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: bizarre | 23:11 |
| nkinkade | So you wanted me to update the CiviCRM db as well? | 23:11 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: are all the civicrm premium/contribution settings stored in that db too, or just donors? | 23:11 |
| Bovinity | if it's just donors, then i guess it doesn't matter so much | 23:11 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: There are 2 separate dbs, one for Drupal and one for CiviCRM. | 23:12 |
| nkinkade | I only changed Drupal's db. | 23:12 |
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| akozak | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e4/Web_development_timeline.png | 23:46 |
| akozak | bam | 23:46 |
| johndoigiii | akozak: ha I have so much to say about that | 23:51 |
| johndoigiii | regarding the neglect of python projects | 23:51 |
| akozak | haha | 23:52 |
| akozak | I was trying to ask myself what they left out | 23:53 |
| johndoigiii | zope for python is a big one | 23:53 |
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| Bovinity | wasn't turbogears py? | 23:58 |
| johndoigiii | yeah thats another big one | 23:59 |
| johndoigiii | also it neglects all of the recent cloud computing stuff | 23:59 |
| Bovinity | i expect the timeline is in svg.. someone should update it.. | 23:59 |
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