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| mecredis | johndoigiii: hey want to chat about the call | 15:40 |
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| mecredis | more CCN stuff? | 15:40 |
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| Xyc0 | heya chan | 16:18 |
| Xyc0 | um... | 16:18 |
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| Xyc0 | I really want to start listening to cc music | 16:19 |
| Xyc0 | but I am having a hard time finding it | 16:19 |
| Xyc0 | prolly a commonly asked question | 16:19 |
| nkinkade | Xyc0: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Content_Directories | 16:19 |
| Xyc0 | wewt thanks | 16:20 |
| nkinkade | You might look there, though there could an overwhelming about of only semi-relevant stuff. | 16:20 |
| nkinkade | Xyc0: Also take a look at http://ccmixter.org and http://jamendo.com | 16:20 |
| Xyc0 | I looked around magnatues | 16:20 |
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| Xyc0 | cool, thanksa ton | 16:20 |
| Xyc0 | oh wow, yah magnatunes was abad place to start | 16:22 |
| Xyc0 | felt like it was all newage stuff :\ | 16:22 |
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| akozak | nkinkade, around? | 17:11 |
| nkinkade | akozak: Here. | 17:12 |
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| akozak | so i think I'd prefer to have git access so that I can immediately see changes to our forms | 17:13 |
| akozak | but only if its not a huge task to get shell access | 17:13 |
| akozak | so git only handles file version control, not site updates? | 17:14 |
| nkinkade | akozak: What OS do you run? | 17:14 |
| akozak | ubuntu | 17:14 |
| akozak | do you need my key | 17:14 |
| nkinkade | akozak: Right. Git is version control, but the live site is a checkout of the git repository. You need both git access and a shell account on a6. | 17:15 |
| nkinkade | I can give you both. | 17:15 |
| nkinkade | akozak: Yeah, send me your a public key and I'll give you write access. | 17:15 |
| akozak | ok, that won't be too big of a project will it? | 17:15 |
| akozak | let me know what I need to do | 17:15 |
| akozak | ill also take your suggestion on the clone site I think | 17:17 |
| akozak | I'm not planning on making any major changes though | 17:18 |
| akozak | nkinkade: sent | 17:22 |
| Bovinity | akozak: if you have a working copy of the site on your laptop, and make changes to the theme in git, just ping one of us to sync production | 17:22 |
| akozak | Bovinity: ok, that sounds like it could work. | 17:23 |
| Bovinity | akozak: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Git_phrasebook | 17:24 |
| akozak | Since I'm working with semantic forms though, I'll need to do more than just copy the site files over | 17:24 |
| akozak | err, that is, semantic forms pulls info from the databases (I think) | 17:25 |
| akozak | will git checkout pull that stuff? | 17:26 |
| johndoigiii | akozak: no, the db won't come with | 17:32 |
| johndoigiii | you'll need to set up a local environment | 17:33 |
| akozak | ok reading up on that now | 17:33 |
| johndoigiii | are you on windowS? | 17:33 |
| akozak | no | 17:33 |
| akozak | ubuntu | 17:33 |
| johndoigiii | oh good | 17:34 |
| johndoigiii | if you need help feel free to ping me | 17:34 |
| akozak | ok awesome, thanks | 17:34 |
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| akozak | johndoigiii: ok so if I clone the opened styles and make a local change, it won't commit the changes to teh git repo unless I tell it to, right? | 17:41 |
| johndoigiii | yes | 17:42 |
| akozak | ok, that makes it less scary | 17:42 |
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| akozak | johndoigiii: one other thing... the structure of our git repository isn't separated by site. so if I wanted to clone opened, that would involve multiple clones right? | 17:44 |
| akozak | I'd have to do mediawiki, openedscripts, the theme, etc | 17:44 |
| johndoigiii | hmm yeah I think so, I haven't looked at that repo in a while | 17:44 |
| akozak | nkinkade: should i have permissions to clone from git, or are you still working on it? | 17:52 |
| mecredis | Bovinity: there? | 17:55 |
| Bovinity | mecredis: aloha | 17:55 |
| mecredis | so | 17:56 |
| mecredis | we have some WMF people asking that "no Attribution" language be included on CC0 | 17:56 |
| mecredis | hence the e-mail from Diane | 17:56 |
| Bovinity | right | 17:56 |
| mecredis | we were wondering what your queue looks like for that | 17:56 |
| mecredis | just so I can get back to them | 17:56 |
| Bovinity | i was just going to shoot out a reply | 17:56 |
| mecredis | great | 17:56 |
| mecredis | I won't bug you then | 17:56 |
| mecredis | :) | 17:56 |
| Bovinity | but if you need it urgent, end of the week | 17:56 |
| mecredis | that's great | 17:56 |
| mecredis | I'm not sure its that urgent | 17:58 |
| mecredis | but I want to say that its a priority | 17:59 |
| mecredis | for the CC0 deeds | 17:59 |
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| akozak | yikes. i just got stuck in an infinite loop on opened using a semantic form. that was messed up. | 18:17 |
| akozak | submitted the form and it infinitely re-loaded the submission icon thing | 18:18 |
| nkinkade | akozak: Sorry. I was having lunch. | 18:19 |
| akozak | nkinkade: no problem | 18:19 |
| akozak | nkinkade: something seems to be wrong with opened | 18:21 |
| akozak | got a 503 trying to edit a form | 18:21 |
| akozak | ok it's better maybe | 18:21 |
| nkinkade | akozak: ? | 18:21 |
| nkinkade | A temporary glitch? | 18:22 |
| akozak | hopefully | 18:22 |
| akozak | nkinkade: ah yes, appears to be ok :) | 18:23 |
| nkinkade | Pwew ... cause I know nothing about that theme and/or install. | 18:24 |
| akozak | Ok, I wasn't doing anything with git though, just saving a page. | 18:25 |
| akozak | but it's all good | 18:25 |
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| Bovinity | nkinkade: opened is still using an SVN checkout of mediawiki.... | 18:32 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: Yes. | 18:32 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: is that going to get replaced with the git one in the near future? | 18:34 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: I don't think anyone has talked about that, but it's surely possible. | 18:35 |
| nkinkade | akozak: I think you can now try: | 18:37 |
| nkinkade | $ git clone git@code.creativecommons.org:ahabskin.git | 18:38 |
| akozak | no go, but i'm starting to think i gave you the wrong pub key | 18:40 |
| nkinkade | akozak: Can you SSH to a6.creativecommons.org? | 18:44 |
| nkinkade | I setup your public key for that as well. | 18:44 |
| akozak | nope | 18:45 |
| akozak | maybe I should try sending you a new key? | 18:45 |
| akozak | i shouldnt have named it akozak since i'm alex on this machine | 18:46 |
| akozak | if that makes a difference | 18:46 |
| johndoigiii | yep | 18:46 |
| johndoigiii | wait no :) | 18:46 |
| Bovinity | shouldn't matter | 18:46 |
| nkinkade | akozak: What might be wrong with the key you sent me? | 18:46 |
| akozak | i didnt tell it rsa? | 18:46 |
| nkinkade | akozak: the way you named the key doesn't matter, it's the contents of the file that count. | 18:46 |
| nkinkade | It does RSA by default. | 18:47 |
| nkinkade | It's an RSA key. | 18:47 |
| akozak | ok | 18:47 |
| akozak | then the only thing i can think is that i shouldnt have given it a passphrase | 18:47 |
| johndoigiii | akozak: when did you make the key? make sure you still have the same user@hostname | 18:48 |
| nkinkade | akozak: try $ ssh -p 2222 a6.creativecommons.org | 18:48 |
| akozak | nope, i can connect it's just not liking my password | 18:49 |
| nkinkade | akozak: You have no password. It should authenticate with the key. | 18:50 |
| akozak | i was wondering why it was asking me | 18:50 |
| akozak | should i just try sending you this new key? | 18:50 |
| nkinkade | Oh wait. akozak You'll need to ssh to akozak@a6.creativecommons.org | 18:50 |
| akozak | ok | 18:50 |
| nkinkade | If you're local username is alex. | 18:50 |
| nkinkade | Or you can use the -l option. | 18:51 |
| nkinkade | Port 2222 is closed, but if this doesn't work then I'll try that again. | 18:51 |
| akozak | yea no go, still asking for a password | 18:51 |
| nkinkade | What is the line you are using? | 18:52 |
| nkinkade | $ ssh akozak@a6.creativecommons.org | 18:52 |
| akozak | yes | 18:52 |
| nkinkade | Try that again, but with -p 2222 | 18:52 |
| akozak | ok | 18:52 |
| nkinkade | I'll get a debug dump on the server side. | 18:52 |
| nkinkade | You should also try -vvv with the client. | 18:53 |
| akozak | ok let me check my ssh config | 18:54 |
| akozak | there we go | 18:55 |
| nkinkade | akozak: Try adding -i ~/.ssh/id_akozak | 18:55 |
| akozak | haha | 18:55 |
| akozak | yea | 18:55 |
| akozak | that was dumb | 18:56 |
| nkinkade | It worked? | 18:56 |
| akozak | yes | 18:56 |
| nathany | akozak: nkinkade: if you rename the id, you have to explicitly specify it :) | 18:56 |
| akozak | sorry about that | 18:56 |
| akozak | nkinkade: thanks for your help | 18:59 |
| akozak | nathany: now you tell me :) | 19:00 |
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| akozak | http://opened.creativecommons.org/Special:BrowseData/Organization?_single | 20:00 |
| akozak | oops disregard | 20:00 |
| nkinkade | akozak: You may have already figured it out, but the files for OpenED are at /var/www/opened.creativecommons.org/www | 20:07 |
| akozak | ok cool, thanks. | 20:08 |
| akozak | i had some other work to do but I'll take a look soon | 20:08 |
| akozak | it might be useful to use svn/git to get the files though | 20:10 |
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| johndoigiii | hey nkinkade, you around? | 20:14 |
| nkinkade | johndoigiii: Yeah. | 20:14 |
| johndoigiii | are you familiar with license_xsl? | 20:15 |
| johndoigiii | i was wondering why the zero license is not included in licenses.xml? | 20:17 |
| nkinkade | johndoigiii: I'm a little familar with license_xsl, but not about why zero wouldn't be in there. | 20:20 |
| johndoigiii | oh okay, thx | 20:21 |
| nkinkade | johndoigiii: As far as I know, the plan is to eliminate license_xsl at some point and have nothing but RDF. Perhaps nathany implemented CC zero in a way that didn't rely on license_xsl to help move that plan forward. | 20:23 |
| johndoigiii | ahh, that makes sense | 20:24 |
| nathany | nkinkade: that's roughly accurate; plus it's such a PITA to work with | 20:24 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: johndoigiii: Are we doing to have a meeting today? | 20:29 |
| nathany | yeah, we should; conference line ok? | 20:30 |
| nathany | let me see if parker is around | 20:30 |
| nkinkade | yeah. | 20:30 |
| nathany | nope... just us 3 -- nkinkade, johndoigiii, conf line? | 20:31 |
| nkinkade | Or we could do a 3- or 4-way Skype call. | 20:31 |
| nathany | nkinkade: i don't have my USB headset @ the office | 20:32 |
| nathany | (and i've never gotten that external mic to work with my thinkpad)_ | 20:32 |
| nkinkade | conf line it is ... | 20:32 |
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| nathany | pyrak: we're doing a tech checkin on the conference line now... you're welcome to join if you like; if not we can talk tomorrow one on one | 20:33 |
| pyrak | nathany, sorry, i was afk. im assuming i missed the call? | 20:35 |
| nathany | pyrak: still on going | 20:35 |
| nathany | join if you like; otherwise no worries | 20:35 |
| pyrak | same line as the all-staff thing this morning? | 20:35 |
| nathany | yup | 20:36 |
| pyrak | k, 1 sec. i'll pop in | 20:36 |
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| akozak | smw is getting really frustrating | 21:08 |
| akozak | format-debug on an #ask query that exceeds the query depth limit doesn't tell you its query depth | 21:08 |
| akozak | format=debug* | 21:08 |
| akozak | it says the size and depth are 0 and just outputs the same error | 21:09 |
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| akozak | does anyone know why i cant join a google group with my cc address? is that not part of the partner account? | 21:54 |
| pyrak | turns out my apache is taking the afternoon off | 21:56 |
| Bovinity | the possibilities of a crude joke there are endless | 21:56 |
| akozak | paulproteus: ping | 21:57 |
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| pyrak | paulproteus, also ping :/ | 22:01 |
| pyrak | i'm getting "Curious. There seems to be an error" for any page i try to visit on my apache2 install. apache2 restart didnt fix it... | 22:02 |
| pyrak | is that particular error string unique to some SFC code? | 22:02 |
| Bovinity | the message sounds like something paulproteus would write | 22:04 |
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| pyrak | Bovinity, that's what i thought. and i knew i had seen it on some freeculture.org stuff. | 22:06 |
| pyrak | then i googled it, and a wiki page at fc.o was the most relevant hit | 22:06 |
| pyrak | so apparently asheesh has h4x0r3d mai srvr omfgbbq | 22:06 |
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| Bovinity | it's not unlikely. lulz. | 22:07 |
| pyrak | oh wait | 22:07 |
| pyrak | i know exactly why | 22:07 |
| pyrak | duhhh | 22:07 |
| pyrak | i was tunneling through the fc.o server in japan to test language stuff, and i totally forgot | 22:08 |
| akozak | nkinkade: still working? | 22:09 |
| Bovinity | asheesh's server in joi's network? | 22:09 |
| nkinkade | akozak: Yeah. What's up? | 22:09 |
| Bovinity | so, er, yeah, he haxed your server indeed ;) | 22:09 |
| akozak | nkinkade: Would be really nice to have this extension on OpenEd http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ArrayExtension | 22:10 |
| nkinkade | akozak: Install it. You've got shell access now. ;-) | 22:10 |
| nkinkade | Oh, wait, I don't think I added you to the right group. | 22:11 |
| akozak | oooooh :) | 22:11 |
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| nkinkade | Done. | 22:11 |
| nkinkade | You're in the group "users," which should have write access to everything in there. | 22:12 |
| akozak | ok cool! thanks | 22:12 |
| nkinkade | One suggestion: You might find it most expedient to install it as an svn checkout. | 22:12 |
| akozak | yes, that's what I'm looking up how to do | 22:12 |
| nkinkade | cd /var/www/opened.creativecommons.org/www/extensions && svn co http://smwbp.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/mediawiki/extensions/ArrayExtension/ | 22:13 |
| nkinkade | ??? | 22:13 |
| nkinkade | Then a quick edit to LocalSettings.php ... | 22:14 |
| nkinkade | I assume that should mostly handle it. | 22:14 |
| akozak | ok, I just wasnt sure if you had to do anything git-like (i.e. creating the directory first) | 22:14 |
| nkinkade | If you're currently logged into a6, you might need to log out then back in for your login session to pickup the group I just added you to. | 22:14 |
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| akozak | nkinkade: can i edit localsettings from the command line or do I need to do it locally and commit it with git? | 22:16 |
| nkinkade | akozak: You'll need to do it remotely on the command line. | 22:17 |
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| nkinkade | The only thing under our version control in that whole install is the skin. | 22:17 |
| akozak | ohhhh | 22:17 |
| nkinkade | Everything else is a subversion checkout from medaiwiki. | 22:17 |
| akozak | crazy! | 22:17 |
| nkinkade | But we can't commit back to Mediawiki, so all changes just stay local, at least for now. | 22:18 |
| akozak | haha | 22:18 |
| nkinkade | We may choose to convert OpenEd to our gitted Mediawiki setup. | 22:18 |
| akozak | oh I get it | 22:19 |
| akozak | to reduce the work of configuring any future mw install? | 22:19 |
| nkinkade | Teamspace and the CC wiki are running from http://code.creativecommons.org/viewgit/mediawiki.git/ | 22:19 |
| nkinkade | It's good because upgrades are easier and also because we can commit any modifications we make back to our own repository. | 22:20 |
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| akozak | woot, added my first extension and edited my first settings file | 22:22 |
| akozak | now i can do my assigned work | 22:22 |
| akozak | haha | 22:22 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Is this business with CC JO something I should be looking into? | 22:24 |
| akozak | this is a perfect illustration of that xkcd comic... in order to write this report I need these graphs, and to make these graphs i need these queries, and to make these queries i need this extension | 22:24 |
| nathany | nkinkade: can you see if pootle is logging anything? | 22:24 |
| nathany | that'd be helpful | 22:24 |
| nkinkade | I'll poke around, but if I don't find anything is there somewhere else I should be looking. Is it just a bad translation most likely, or has he uploaded a non-Unicode file? | 22:25 |
| nathany | fuck if i know | 22:25 |
| nathany | actually i'll email him now and ask him to send us the file directly so we can look at it. | 22:25 |
| nkinkade | Didn't he already sent it to us earlier in that thread? | 22:27 |
| nkinkade | nathany: He sent it to us attached to an email on June 1. | 22:28 |
| nathany | oh | 22:28 |
| nathany | dman | 22:28 |
| nathany | damn | 22:28 |
| nkinkade | I'll look at that file myself. | 22:28 |
| nkinkade | I'll try to see if maybe he's slipped in some non-Unicode chars. | 22:29 |
| nathany | nkinkade: yeah, i'm not sure what the problem would be | 22:30 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Here's the most recent error from the Pootle log: http://pastebin.com/d31f3484d | 22:31 |
| nathany | man, that looks like a Pootle bug | 22:31 |
| nathany | ok, i'll take a look @ that code and see if anything is obvious | 22:32 |
| nkinkade | nathany: WTF? What does "Update" do in the editing functions? I wasn't even aware that we used that function. That's where he's getting the error. | 22:41 |
| nathany | nkinkade: that's what I was just realizing | 22:41 |
| nathany | i'll email him now | 22:41 |
| nathany | sigh | 22:42 |
| nkinkade | I think this may be some of the confusion: he has been telling us that things are showing up on staging okay, but that he gets that error, so he things something is wrong. | 22:42 |
| nkinkade | *thinks | 22:42 |
| nathany | yeah... i got confused about uploading the PO file, though | 22:43 |
| nathany | weird | 22:43 |
| nkinkade | I think a few weeks back I tried to find out what Update does and couldn't even find it in the Pootle docs. Maybe I didn't look hard enough. | 22:44 |
| nathany | nkinkade: it's supposed to update the PO files from source control | 22:48 |
| nathany | we never bothered configuring/setting it up because we exert a | 22:48 |
| nathany | little more control over the process (cc2po, etc) | 22:48 |
| nkinkade | Maybe I should remove that link from the template?? | 22:48 |
| nathany | nkinkade: if you can do it easily, that'd be great | 22:49 |
| nkinkade | I can't see why it would be hard. I'll look at it. If it takes more than few minutes I'll make a ticket and do it later. | 22:49 |
| nathany | ok great | 22:49 |
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