| mattl | paulproteus: http://matt.lee.name/ | 00:02 |
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| paulproteus | I'd say, "contact the autonomo.us list" instead. | 00:06 |
| paulproteus | Anyway, be back in a bit. | 00:07 |
| mattl | paulproteus: no no, scroll down! | 00:07 |
| paulproteus | Oh my GOD. | 00:08 |
| paulproteus | Now I want to plaster that everywhere at that size. | 00:08 |
| paulproteus | Like the wall across the street from me. | 00:08 |
| paulproteus | That's frickin' awesome. | 00:08 |
| mattl | you guys need to make big fucking stickers like that | 00:08 |
| paulproteus | Really, though | 00:09 |
| paulproteus | wait, one sec | 00:09 |
| Bovinity | then people will go stick them on things and call them cc licensed... </curmudgeon> | 00:09 |
| mattl | no worse than people who take random copyrighted images and put them on flickr under free licenses | 00:10 |
| paulproteus | paulproteus.acm.jhu.edu/tmp/big.png | 00:11 |
| mattl | way to violate your employers trademark dude ;) | 00:13 |
| * paulproteus looks around sheepishly and hopes mlinksva doesn't notice | 00:13 | |
| * Bovinity opens up an email to DP | 00:14 | |
| paulproteus | I guess HU EG would have been even better. | 00:15 |
| paulproteus | Hopefully DP will have some suggestions about a better caption. | 00:15 |
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| mlinksva | mattl, paulproteus looking great, but you should really go full-width with svg | 00:50 |
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| mattl | mlinksva: where are you and paulproteus staying during the LP2009 conf? | 01:18 |
| paulproteus | Possibly chez Mako or possibly with a friend in Central Square. | 01:19 |
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| nathany | paulproteus: SYN? | 04:23 |
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| paulproteus | nathany, ACK | 05:25 |
| paulproteus | SUP? | 05:25 |
| paulproteus | The idea of you trying to find me on IRC this late in the evening does not bode well, I fear. | 05:25 |
| nathany | paulproteus: i managed to figure it out, still slogging through | 05:25 |
| nathany | there was still a spurious country.ec msgctxt in the master file | 05:25 |
| paulproteus | I saw it, and I wondered why. | 05:26 |
| nathany | fixing that, however, revealed that babel had helpfully duplicated the string | 05:26 |
| paulproteus | I thought it might have been a dream. | 05:26 |
| nathany | and in the cases where it's translated, well, the two are almost always different | 05:26 |
| nathany | (10/12 cases) | 05:26 |
| nathany | fun times | 05:26 |
| paulproteus | *Wow*. | 05:26 |
| nathany | i've just about got them edited, setting those to fuzzy with a conjoined value and a flag between the two | 05:26 |
| paulproteus | Should I had a pre-commit hook that verifies master.po has no msgctxt? | 05:27 |
| paulproteus | s/had/add/ | 05:27 |
| nathany | unfortunately it's our most active translators that are going to suffer since they're the only ones who did the string | 05:27 |
| paulproteus | Yeah, that is a drag. | 05:27 |
| nathany | i'm not sure that's quite it | 05:27 |
| nathany | it may be that we want to run things through msguniq before comitting | 05:27 |
| paulproteus | Hmm, good point. | 05:27 |
| nathany | well, that wouldn't have caught the dupe (since they *were* technically unique ids) | 05:28 |
| nathany | but it's another thing... | 05:28 |
| paulproteus | So no msgctxt + msguniq. | 05:28 |
| nathany | anyway, i need to get these files cleaned up, committed, merged, and CCi emailed so i can be my bright and cheerful self for etech tomorrow AM | 05:28 |
| paulproteus | Or moreover, assert msguniq + assert no msgctxt. | 05:28 |
| nathany | right | 05:28 |
| paulproteus | Let the committer hand-fix htis. | 05:28 |
| nathany | i mean merged when i updated pootle | 05:29 |
| nathany | (btw you missed a couple of <<< lines that'll be removed in this pass, too) | 05:29 |
| paulproteus | Oh, eeeeeeeeek. | 05:29 |
| nathany | (no biggie...) | 05:29 |
| paulproteus | I searched for <<< ... | 05:29 |
| paulproteus | Gack, sorry. | 05:29 |
| paulproteus | Here, have a Dinosaur Comics for when you have a sec: http://www.qwantz.com/archive/001115.html | 05:30 |
| nathany | they were all the way @ the end of the file | 05:30 |
| paulproteus | OH, huh. | 05:30 |
| paulproteus | Anyway I'll let you get back to it unless you need me / want me. | 05:30 |
| nathany | nope, nothing to see here | 05:30 |
| nathany | thanks | 05:30 |
| paulproteus | Sure thing. | 05:30 |
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| nathany | paulproteus: the update applied seamlessly on pootle; i'm declaring victory for the night and heading to bed; see you tomorrow | 05:55 |
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| paulproteus | ciao | 05:55 |
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| examplez | hi | 13:55 |
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| Arul | anyone have a paypal acc | 14:14 |
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| Arul | !help | 14:42 |
| Arul | !cardable | 14:45 |
| Arul | !exploit | 14:46 |
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| m-c | Greetings - in a recent weblog entry, Fred Benenson said that Uncensored Interview "now includes videos available via download in Ogg Theora", but I am unable to find any links on that web site that support such downloads. | 16:26 |
| m-c | Has anyone here seen this already who can tell me where these links are located? Do I need to sign up for an account on that website, first, before the links are visible? | 16:27 |
| m-c | Oh, shoot, I just found them. Heh - nevermind. | 16:28 |
| m-c | The Download Clip link is not present on many video pages. | 16:32 |
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| paulproteus | Morning all. | 16:42 |
| paulproteus | m-c, Glad you found it. | 16:42 |
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| nkinkade | paulproteus: Are you up to speed at all about these new changes to cc.engine? | 17:09 |
| paulproteus | Not really. | 17:09 |
| paulproteus | I can be, if necessary. What's up? | 17:09 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: I'm finally trying to see what's up with the HK translations. | 17:09 |
| nkinkade | Seems that "bin/buildout install i18n" is no longer sufficient to make things work for cc.engine, at least on staging. | 17:10 |
| paulproteus | Hmm. I want to see if I can figure out a bug in Babel; can we talk in ca. 30m? | 17:10 |
| paulproteus | My guess is that's due to syntax errors or other such snafus in the PO files. | 17:10 |
| nkinkade | Will Nathan be offline most of the day? | 17:10 |
| paulproteus | http://teamspace.creativecommons.org/ETech_Conference_Booth indicates at least he's at ETech until 1; I don't know his plans after that. | 17:11 |
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| paulproteus | Babel is hilarious. | 17:33 |
| * paulproteus fixes a bug and submits another patch. | 17:33 | |
| paulproteus | They assume all time zone offsets are positive. | 17:33 |
| nkinkade | That doesn't really work for locations west of the prime meridian and east of 180 degrees, at least not in the notation I'm familiar with seeing. | 17:37 |
| paulproteus | Yeah, so Babel changes this in our PO files: | 17:37 |
| paulproteus | "POT-Creation-Date: 2009-03-09 15:47-0700\n" | 17:38 |
| paulproteus | to this: | 17:38 |
| paulproteus | "POT-Creation-Date: 2009-03-09 15:47+0700\n" | 17:38 |
| paulproteus | I wrote tests that show the bug, and I'm finishing up the patch now... | 17:38 |
| nkinkade | That's great. Somewhere in China that would be? | 17:38 |
| nkinkade | Or India. | 17:38 |
| paulproteus | India is around there, but on a half time zone. | 17:38 |
| mattl | dublin used be 12 mins behind london. | 17:38 |
| paulproteus | Hah. | 17:39 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: I have to admit that I'm already in love with the idea of etckeeper. I've already installed it on my laptops. | 17:39 |
| nkinkade | I was totally wrong about my earlier assessment. | 17:39 |
| paulproteus | *awesome*! | 17:39 |
| paulproteus | I'm so glad to hear that! | 17:39 |
| paulproteus | So much that I said "Awesome" out loud. | 17:39 |
| paulproteus | (-: | 17:39 |
| nkinkade | By the way that Asus 1000HE Eee came in yesterday. | 17:40 |
| paulproteus | Oh, sweet. | 17:40 |
| paulproteus | Hence laptops. | 17:40 |
| nkinkade | Everything works out-of-the-box with Ubuntu Intrepid, except for the Fn key combos. | 17:40 |
| nkinkade | But I've already got a Debian package in that mostly fixes it. Now just need to do some minor hand tweaking of ACPI events. | 17:41 |
| paulproteus | Super rad. | 17:41 |
| nkinkade | mattl: Dublin was 12 mins behind London at one point? How long ago, out of curiosity? | 17:41 |
| mattl | sorry, 25. | 17:42 |
| mattl | 1916 | 17:42 |
| nkinkade | That would be confusing as hell, but no less confusing that English standard measurements in general. | 17:43 |
| paulproteus | I'm not sure I agree. | 17:44 |
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| nkinkade | I meant to say no more confusing. | 17:46 |
| nkinkade | If that changes your mind. | 17:46 |
| paulproteus | I mean, a 25m time zone is pretty weird. | 17:47 |
| paulproteus | I guess maybe that is about as weird as the rest of it, I dunno. | 17:47 |
| mattl | i think they were measuring it in furlongs. | 17:47 |
| paulproteus | That's a relief. | 17:47 |
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| paulproteus | Morning, nathany. | 18:48 |
| nathany | morning paulproteus | 18:48 |
| paulproteus | How's ETech? | 18:48 |
| paulproteus | That good, huh? | 18:49 |
| Bovinity | oh boy, i can't wait | 18:49 |
| nathany | it's fine... actually had a couple good conversations | 18:49 |
| paulproteus | Okay, that's good to hear. | 18:50 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Still having the buildout problems? | 19:11 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Yeah. | 19:12 |
| nkinkade | There's no error, it just doesn't work as expected. | 19:12 |
| paulproteus | I'm curious if the PO files are of valid syntax. | 19:13 |
| nkinkade | I see that the string I want is translated in cc/engine/i18n/po/....... | 19:13 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Specifically I'm looking at license.what in the zh_HK PO file. | 19:13 |
| nkinkade | It's translated in that file and I would expect a buildout i18n install, then restart of cc.engine to make it visible, but it doesn't | 19:14 |
| nathany | nkinkade: is it translated in the CC style file? | 19:14 |
| nathany | oh, nevermind | 19:14 |
| nathany | just re-read the path you typed | 19:14 |
| nathany | (and you mean buildout install i18n, right? not sure what reversing params would do) | 19:15 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Yeah. | 19:15 |
| nkinkade | You can search that file for license.what to get the string. | 19:16 |
| nkinkade | Yeah, sorry, I meant buildout install i18n | 19:16 |
| nkinkade | I just checked the actual command I wrote. | 19:16 |
| nkinkade | So specifically I would expect this page to be translated http://staging.creativecommons.org/license/?lang=zh_HK | 19:17 |
| nkinkade | But that first paragraph remains in English. | 19:17 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Will you be available in the office a for a while this afternoon? | 19:32 |
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| nathany | nkinkade: yeah, i should be | 19:48 |
| nathany | our shift is wrapping up in a bit, we'll have to drive back | 19:49 |
| nkinkade | nathany: I had some ideas of upgrading a5 today, though I'm open to other times, and it seems prudent to have you available in case of cc.engine troubles ... and it would probably also be good to have paulproteus around in case of a problem that could require more eyes. | 19:50 |
| nkinkade | But I guess we need to re-run buildout first. | 19:50 |
| nkinkade | What's the best way to go about that? | 19:50 |
| paulproteus | I'll be at lunch 2-3 but otherwise will be around; I can even head to the office after lunch if desired. | 19:50 |
| nkinkade | We could just as easily do it tomorrow if today isn't great. | 19:51 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Since the server is in L.A., I guess it's all the same whether you're at home or in the office. :-) | 19:51 |
| paulproteus | I meant mostly so nathany had someone in person to scream at. | 19:51 |
| nkinkade | haha | 19:52 |
| nathany | nkinkade: so i'll be re-running the buildout when i push out the CC0 stuff | 19:52 |
| nkinkade | I don't doubt that the site will have some downtime, but hopefully it wouldn't be more than 60 seconds or so. | 19:52 |
| nkinkade | nathany: And you'll run that against Python 2.5? | 19:53 |
| nathany | i'd honestly rather wait until thursday or friday since today i need to focus on getting last minute edits done | 19:53 |
| nathany | and tomorrow we're "announcing" CC0 @ ETech | 19:53 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Thursday or Friday is fine. | 19:53 |
| nathany | nkinkade: yup, i'll make sure it goes against 2.5 | 19:53 |
| nkinkade | I'll do a8 instead, but there's a pending issue. | 19:53 |
| nkinkade | And I guess we should do a7 at around the same time as a5 since it'll need a buildout against Python 2.5 also. | 19:54 |
| nathany | nkinkade: btw, a7 has the "new" bulidout and a5 will be getting it as well | 19:54 |
| nathany | (see my email last week re: heads up) | 19:54 |
| nkinkade | Yeah, I saw the email. Maybe that has something to do with the i18n thing. | 19:55 |
| nathany | hrm... maybe | 19:56 |
| nathany | is there a ticket open for that i18n issue? | 19:56 |
| nathany | i'm having some problems keeping track of things, so maybe you can open one and assign it to me? | 19:56 |
| nathany | nkinkade: ^^ | 19:57 |
| nkinkade | nathany: I didn't open a ticket because I wasn't 100% sure whether it was an issue or if I was just doing something wrong. | 19:58 |
| nkinkade | I take that to mean that it appears to you to be an issue. | 19:58 |
| nkinkade | I'll make a ticket. | 19:58 |
| nathany | nkinkade: if the string is there and it's not working, sounds like an issue | 19:59 |
| nathany | (and sounds similar to a few other i've squashed lately) | 19:59 |
| nathany | nkinkade: thanks for making a ticket; helps me keep my brain organized | 20:00 |
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| zu22 | hi is anyone here a lawyer? | 20:04 |
| ianweller | lawyers don't have time for IRC | 20:05 |
| zu22 | hehe | 20:05 |
| ianweller | :P | 20:05 |
| ianweller | what's your question, maybe we can give you non-legal advice | 20:06 |
| zu22 | i compiled a huge list of annotated links and i want to make sure no one can just steal it from me and pass it off as their own, this is for a game i play and i have literally HUNDREDS of links i organized, listed and annotated | 20:06 |
| zu22 | so i want to know how i can legally protect my work | 20:06 |
| zu22 | and if someone steals my stuff i want to file DMCA complaint against them on my own (hiring lawyer is too expensive) so i wanna learn how do that also | 20:09 |
| robmyers | Assuming the annotations pass the threshold of originality in your jurisdiction, you will get copyright automatically, although it may help to register it in the US. DMCA takedowns are (far too) easy to do and you should be able to Google a howto for that. That is probably off topic for this channel though. Can I interest you in licensing your work with a Creative Commons licence? ;-) | 20:14 |
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| nkinkade | paulproteus: Thanks for taking a look at the packages on a8. | 20:25 |
| nkinkade | If you run dist-upgrade, does the default solution look reasonable to you? | 20:25 |
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| paulproteus | I would: | 20:25 |
| paulproteus | $ sudo apt-get install aptitude apt dpkg | 20:25 |
| paulproteus | $ sudo apt-get install postfix ssh | 20:26 |
| paulproteus | $ sudo apt-get install mysql-server-5.0 | 20:26 |
| paulproteus | And then try a dist-upgrade. | 20:26 |
| nkinkade | Why granular? | 20:26 |
| nkinkade | To isolate any potential problems? | 20:26 |
| paulproteus | Actually, I just removed one package that was causing some others to be held back (pbuilder). | 20:26 |
| paulproteus | You should still install aptitude first; the aptitude in Lenny has special smarts about Etch->Lenny upgrade handling. | 20:27 |
| paulproteus | That's mentioned in the release notes that nobody reads. | 20:27 |
| ianweller | tha'ts why i read release notes :P | 20:31 |
| nkinkade | :-) | 20:31 |
| nkinkade | I had read something (not the release notes) a couple weeks ago about upgrading apt first, but I didn't do that on a6 or a9 and the upgrades seemed find in that respect, notwithstanding some other issues. | 20:32 |
| paulproteus | Sure, "but you should anyway." | 20:32 |
| paulproteus | OT: http://black20.com/black20-trailer-park/300-pg-version | 20:33 |
| zu22 | robmyers: sure, please tell me more about CC license | 20:33 |
| robmyers | see http://creativecommons.org/ for more information | 20:34 |
| zu22 | robmyers: ok will check it out :) | 20:35 |
| zu22 | i want to make a footer that shows prominently the fact my website and wiki is protected by a license | 20:36 |
| zu22 | so no one can claim ignorance | 20:36 |
| ianweller | CC provides buttons and other things to stick in your footer to link to the license page on creativecommons.org | 20:38 |
| zu22 | ianweller: cool | 20:41 |
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| paulproteus | a8 is back | 22:53 |
| paulproteus | All it needed was the loving hand-holding of a fsck, or the patience to have one happen while we weren't looking. | 22:54 |
| greg-g | \o/ | 22:54 |
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| nkinkade | Sorry about the added downtown. I just nervous when it didn't come back up after around 15 minutes, especially not being able to see what was going on. | 22:55 |
| paulproteus | My beloved validator.creativecommons.org doesn't seem to do much loading, but I can check on that. | 22:56 |
| paulproteus | usearch seems to return no results? | 22:57 |
| paulproteus | I don't know if that's normal, but unless otherwise indicated I'll consider my work here done. | 22:59 |
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| paulproteus | I'll file a ticket about the validator. | 22:59 |
| paulproteus | ...well maybe I'll diagnose that now. | 22:59 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: usearch is now on a6. | 23:00 |
| paulproteus | Ah, cool; it has a skeleton in /var/www/ | 23:01 |
| nkinkade | it's actually discovered.(cc).org on a6. | 23:01 |
| paulproteus | Ah, of course. | 23:01 |
| nkinkade | I do believe that we should remove usearch from a8, to avoid confusion. I'll file a ticket. | 23:02 |
| paulproteus | Cool. | 23:02 |
| Bovinity | linnode alert! | 23:06 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: API 1.5 and dev are having some issues. | 23:09 |
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| nkinkade | ImportError: /var/www/api.creativecommons.org/api-1.5/eggs/lxml-2.1beta3-py2.4-linux-x86_64.egg/lxml/etree.so: undefined symbol: Py_InitModule4 | 23:10 |
| nkinkade | I get that when I try to launch it in the foreground | 23:10 |
| paulproteus | I have the same prob for validator | 23:10 |
| paulproteus | I imagine a re-buildout will fix it | 23:10 |
| nathany | is python2.4 still installed? | 23:10 |
| paulproteus | I'm doing it for validator now | 23:10 |
| paulproteus | Y | 23:10 |
| paulproteus | es | 23:10 |
| nathany | a rebuildout is the first thing to try since that's in an egg that gets built | 23:10 |
| nkinkade | nathany: I'll buildout again. | 23:11 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: Now getting a buildout error related utidylib | 23:14 |
| nathany | nkinkade: is this on 1.5 or dev? | 23:14 |
| nkinkade | 1.5 | 23:14 |
| nathany | let me look | 23:14 |
| nkinkade | Sorry to pull you away from the CC0 stuff. | 23:14 |
| nkinkade | For what it's worth, I get the same error on the buildout of api-devv | 23:15 |
| nathany | ok | 23:16 |
| nathany | looking | 23:16 |
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| paulproteus | nathany, nkinkade hey wait a sec | 23:17 |
| paulproteus | exceptions.ImportError: /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/Redland.so: undefined symbol: Py_InitModule4_64 | 23:17 |
| paulproteus | That's in /usr/lib | 23:17 |
| paulproteus | That's my validator error | 23:17 |
| paulproteus | is that your error too? | 23:17 |
| nathany | no | 23:17 |
| paulproteus | Then carry on | 23:17 |
| nathany | oh, wait | 23:17 |
| nathany | nkinkade: did your error get truncated above? | 23:18 |
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| paulproteus | I mean for me the interesting bit is the /usr/lib part | 23:18 |
| paulproteus | yours is a in-tree built etree.so | 23:18 |
| nkinkade | I don't think so, let me verify. | 23:18 |
| nkinkade | nathany: I can't test anymore because ./bin no longer has zdaemon. | 23:19 |
| nathany | can you try in dev? | 23:19 |
| nkinkade | dev doesn't have zdaemon anymore either. | 23:19 |
| nkinkade | But my scroll buffer might have the answer. | 23:19 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: paulproteus: No, what I pasted was not truncated. | 23:20 |
| paulproteus | I figured as much | 23:20 |
| nkinkade | But the errors sure are similar. | 23:20 |
| paulproteus | Looks like Python 2.4 ABI changes, which is pretty harsh. | 23:20 |
| * paulproteus just migrates validator to python 2.5 | 23:21 | |
| nathany | paulproteus: where did you drop the babel egg again? | 23:21 |
| paulproteus | http://labs.creativecommons.org/~paulproteus/eggs/Babel-1.0dev-py2.5.egg | 23:21 |
| paulproteus | same path as always | 23:21 |
| paulproteus | I don't know how to properly use setuptools versioning.... | 23:21 |
| nathany | ok, i thought it was more generic... nevermind | 23:22 |
| paulproteus | I tried find_links but it didn't do what I want. | 23:22 |
| nathany | paulproteus: it might do what you want if you omit the actual egg name | 23:22 |
| nathany | but i don't have the cycles to think about it | 23:22 |
| paulproteus | Yeah, no worries. | 23:22 |
| paulproteus | w00t, validator back up | 23:24 |
| paulproteus | on python2.5 | 23:24 |
| paulproteus | Let me know if I can help somehow. | 23:25 |
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| nathany | i think i've got it... | 23:29 |
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| paulproteus | Cool. | 23:30 |
| nathany | 1.5 is back up | 23:32 |
| nathany | nkinkade: paulproteus: i just built the uTidylib egg myself | 23:33 |
| nathany | added find-links | 23:33 |
| nathany | (instead of dependency_links) | 23:33 |
| nathany | rebuilding dev now | 23:33 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: What is something I could/should have known how to do? | 23:33 |
| nathany | i suppose you could have, but not really any reason to expect it :) | 23:34 |
| nathany | it's actually a setuptools/sourceforge bug | 23:34 |
| nathany | can't decide who to blame, so i default to sourceforge :) | 23:34 |
| nathany | i only knew because i'm the reporter :) | 23:35 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Just to be sure, there was a referece scgi in the old default Apache vhost ... is that not needed anymore? | 23:37 |
| nathany | i have no idea | 23:37 |
| nkinkade | And Nagios now reports all API servcies as being up. | 23:37 |
| nkinkade | I think it was old, and for testing. | 23:37 |
| paulproteus | nathany, Awesome | 23:38 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: Is there any good way for me to investigate apparently 500 errors from cc.engine? | 23:44 |
| nkinkade | The ones Nagios is reporting. | 23:45 |
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| nathany | well i'm guessing they're not from cc.engine | 23:45 |
| nathany | since the engine is up and it's spewing errors about a7 generally as well as a5/license | 23:46 |
| nathany | (or are you referring to something other than the emails) | 23:46 |
| nkinkade | nathany: I the errors may not be coming from cc.engine, but it's interesting that Nagios reports errors for /license/ on both a5 and a7. | 23:48 |
| nkinkade | Surely an error related to the upgrade, but it'd help to know what cc.engine was actually saying to the Nagios plugin. | 23:49 |
| nathany | so what page does nagios poll? | 23:49 |
| nathany | why would it be related to the upgrade when you haven't done a5 or a7 yet? | 23:49 |
| nathany | (and it started well after i did the push last night to staging) | 23:49 |
| nkinkade | nathany: It's supposed to just check http://creativecommons.org/license/ | 23:51 |
| nkinkade | ... for example. | 23:51 |
| nkinkade | But also /licenses/ | 23:51 |
| nkinkade | I mean the upgrade of Nagios. | 23:51 |
| nathany | both of those seem fine to me | 23:51 |
| nathany | i didn't realize you upgraded nagios | 23:51 |
| nkinkade | I just upgraded a8.CC and also nagios.CC | 23:52 |
| nkinkade | Probably a mistake in retrospect. | 23:52 |
| nkinkade | But I figured there wasn't much harm in upgrading a the monitoring server. | 23:52 |
| nkinkade | So, it's clearly something wrong with Nagios and not the site, but it would be helpful to know what Nagios is requesting, if anything. | 23:53 |
| nathany | well there's harm if our monitoring isn't working :) | 23:54 |
| nathany | i don't think i have any insight that can help you on this one | 23:54 |
| nkinkade | So, in other words, there's no error log for cc.engine? | 23:56 |
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| nkinkade | It's possible that Nagios is so fucked that it's reporting totally bogus things, but it's also possible that it's just making bad requests and that cc.engine is truly returning 500 errors to Nagios. | 23:57 |
| nkinkade | It would just be nice, a la Apache error logs, to see why, if at all, cc.engine is returning 500 errors. | 23:58 |
| nathany | nkinkade: ah, i misunderstood | 23:59 |
| nathany | /var/www/staging.creativecommons.org/cc.engine/logs/z3.log | 23:59 |
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