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| nkinkade | paulproteus: Any advice about alpine? Perhaps a base config file that would be a good starting point? | 01:03 |
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| paulproteus | nkinkade, If you're to use it against Gmail for IMAP, I'd google alpine+gmail. | 01:09 |
| paulproteus | Otherwise for now I'll remain silent so I can finish some more skin work and run off. | 01:09 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: No, I plan to use it with dovecot off my own server. | 01:09 |
| nkinkade | But no need to stop what you're doing now for this. | 01:09 |
| nkinkade | I'll figure something out for now. | 01:10 |
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| paulproteus | Bovinity, My request for your CSS help is in http://code.creativecommons.org/issues/issue139 . | 01:27 |
| Bovinity | ah yes, that needs some love | 01:28 |
| Bovinity | marked todo tomorrow | 01:28 |
| paulproteus | Sweet. | 01:32 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: Any thoughts on Giorgos' email? | 15:53 |
| nathany | nkinkade: many :) | 15:53 |
| nathany | i'm going to chat with mike and will reply after the staff call | 15:54 |
| nkinkade | My personal feeling is that I'm generally averse to handing out a handful of shell accounts just to skin and configure a wiki. | 15:54 |
| nathany | yeah, i concur | 15:54 |
| nkinkade | So shall I hold off on replying for now? | 15:54 |
| nathany | yes, please | 15:54 |
| nkinkade | I have a couple alternative ideas. | 15:54 |
| nkinkade | I'll email them to you. | 15:54 |
| nathany | i'll get a reply out this morning after i confirm with mike -- just want to double check on the funding we received for that (if there are requirements/strings) | 15:55 |
| nkinkade | Ones you've surely already thought of, but I'll send them just to make sure we're on the same page. | 15:55 |
| nathany | sure, that'd be great | 15:55 |
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| nathany | hey johndoigiii -- i'm going to update your key | 16:53 |
| johndoigiii | okay great thx | 16:53 |
| nathany | do you want me to keep both in the system? (not sure if you'll use the old one for your desktop) | 16:53 |
| nathany | johndoigiii: i kept both; done | 16:55 |
| johndoigiii | sorry bout that, no I will not need the other one | 16:56 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, I'll grant user:mt admin privileges on cz. | 16:57 |
| paulproteus | re: Michelle's email and Pootle | 16:57 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Okay, perfect. Thanks for letting me know. | 16:58 |
| paulproteus | ...if I can figure out how... | 16:59 |
| paulproteus | ...do you know how I should do this? | 16:59 |
| paulproteus | Never mind, found it. | 17:00 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Done. | 17:01 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: As an addendum to the emails about CZ, I noticed another language admin the other day who was missing commit rights, when I thought they should have had them. | 17:12 |
| nkinkade | For Vietnamese. | 17:12 |
| nathany | nkinkade: i just replied to giorgos | 17:12 |
| nkinkade | But, then again, I do recall not checking the "Commit" right for many admins before. | 17:12 |
| nkinkade | nathany: That seems right to me. Thanks. | 17:13 |
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| nkinkade | I just answered 3 consecutive info@ emails where people distinctly used the word registration in connection with the license chooser, and who were wondering where there registration code was. | 17:20 |
| nkinkade | We have really got to change the messaging relating to that tool. | 17:20 |
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| nathany | or make it harder to send info@ emails ;) | 17:30 |
| nathany | (just kidding!) | 17:30 |
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| paulproteus | nkinkade, BTW dealing with the XHTML attachment stuff is really easy in alpine. | 17:44 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Probably because Alpine is natively able to display HTML inline? | 17:45 |
| nkinkade | *is not | 17:45 |
| paulproteus | It is, but its handling of attachments is superb. | 17:46 |
| paulproteus | You just sort of zoom in and get the ability to save the attachments. | 17:46 |
| paulproteus | It is also displaying them inline. | 17:46 |
| paulproteus | But if you ask for attachment view you get them. | 17:46 |
| nkinkade | Nice. | 17:46 |
| nkinkade | By the way, I tried sup-mail earlier this morning after having to install 4 src packages from Debian as dependencies. | 17:47 |
| paulproteus | What do you make of it? | 17:48 |
| nkinkade | There were some errors at a few points. | 17:48 |
| nkinkade | I'll need to read more about it. | 17:48 |
| paulproteus | Okay. | 17:48 |
| nkinkade | No fatal errors, but didn't give me confidence. | 17:48 |
| * paulproteus nods | 17:48 | |
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| nkinkade | nathany: There is definitely a bug in CiviCRM re: that email this morning. | 18:20 |
| nkinkade | I'm about to have it tracked down, fixed and reported, but it's taking up my time now rather than the wiki stuff. | 18:20 |
| nkinkade | Just wanted to let you know. | 18:20 |
| nathany | nkinkade: thanks | 18:21 |
| nkinkade | It's not likely to show up for many people, but a bug in the donation software seems more important than the wikis for the moment. | 18:21 |
| nathany | absolutely | 18:22 |
| jgay | anybody here going to the CC Boston Salon tonight? | 19:01 |
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| mattl | isforinsects: coming out tonight? | 19:07 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Er, I thought Czech was cz, not cs. | 19:23 |
| * paulproteus checks Pootle | 19:23 | |
| paulproteus | I just bounced you a message to justify the above "Er, I thought". | 19:23 |
| paulproteus | Nope, it's totally cs. Weird, but okay. | 19:24 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Is there something I need to do? | 19:25 |
| mattl | cs is when .cz and .sk was .cs | 19:25 |
| paulproteus | Not really. | 19:25 |
| paulproteus | mattl, Point taken. | 19:25 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, What do you know about the addition of the lang hy to i18n? | 19:33 |
| paulproteus | paulproteus@a7:/var/lib/pootle/checkouts/cc_org/cc-i18n-trunk/cc_i18ntools$ ls -l /var/lib/pootle/checkouts/cc_org/cc-i18n-trunk/i18n/hy/ | 19:33 |
| paulproteus | total 0 | 19:33 |
| paulproteus | paulproteus@a7:/var/lib/pootle/checkouts/cc_org/cc-i18n-trunk/cc_i18ntools$ ls -l /var/lib/pootle/checkouts/cc_org/cc-i18n-trunk/po/hy/ | 19:33 |
| paulproteus | total 100 | 19:33 |
| paulproteus | -rw-rw-r-- 1 pootle pootle 90771 2009-02-24 17:41 cc_org.po | 19:33 |
| paulproteus | -rw-rw-r-- 1 pootle pootle 54 2009-02-24 17:41 pootle-cc_org-hy.prefs | 19:33 |
| paulproteus | ...which is to say, there is a PO-style file but no CC-style file. | 19:33 |
| paulproteus | And tragically, the PO-style file isn't a Subversion checkout. | 19:33 |
| paulproteus | Did you create the hy language recently, and if so, following what directions? I should ensure all the docs create everything correctly. | 19:34 |
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| paulproteus | It seems to be Armenian. Looking at http://translate.creativecommons.org/hy/cc_org/translate.html?untranslated=1&editing=1 in Pootle, it's a total mess; it appears to be some combination of CC-style and PO-style. | 19:37 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: creativecommons.org has fallen over | 20:00 |
| johndoigiii | yeah getting 503 | 20:00 |
| Bovinity | varnish, specifically | 20:00 |
| Bovinity | johndoigiii: hi john. Alex @ cc sf here. | 20:01 |
| johndoigiii | Bovinity: hey Alex, I was just looking up bovinity in the contact info on teamspace | 20:01 |
| Bovinity | hehe | 20:02 |
| paulproteus | paulproteus@a5:~$ curl http://creativecommons.org | 20:02 |
| paulproteus | curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host 'creativecommons.org' | 20:02 |
| paulproteus | well that's odd. | 20:02 |
| * paulproteus adds 4.2.2.4 to resolv.conf on a5 | 20:02 | |
| paulproteus | Bovinity, johndoigiii: fixed? | 20:03 |
| Bovinity | aye | 20:03 |
| paulproteus | "yay" | 20:03 |
| paulproteus | emailing webmaster@ now | 20:03 |
| johndoigiii | yup | 20:03 |
| johndoigiii | paulproteus: you have sec to answer a quick question about wpLicense? | 20:05 |
| paulproteus | johndoigiii, Sure. | 20:05 |
| johndoigiii | paulproteus: I'm just toying around with it, ensuring it still works correctly in wp 2.7 and noticed that it is still using jswidget .92, is there any particular reason for this? | 20:05 |
| paulproteus | No reason at all. | 20:06 |
| paulproteus | We should bump it. | 20:06 |
| johndoigiii | ohh okay, I wasn't sure | 20:06 |
| johndoigiii | well bumping up breaks the form processsing | 20:06 |
| paulproteus | Well in that case we ought to bump it and test it and then release it! | 20:07 |
| johndoigiii | okay, how many projects rely on jswidget? | 20:07 |
| paulproteus | We haven't been reading the logs, but at least WpLicense and the Six Apart thing they+we announced in 2007. | 20:08 |
| paulproteus | TypePad. | 20:08 |
| paulproteus | But everyone links to the version they last tested with, so API changes are okay. | 20:08 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Bovinity: nathany: I went to get a bit to eat for lunch, just got back with it, and am still eating. I'll look into a5, but it's not like I'm the only one who could possible resolve the issue. If a5 goes down, the first person to notice should do something about it right away, not just post a message to me on #cc and forget about it. | 20:09 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Yeah, and I did; see your email. | 20:09 |
| paulproteus | Turns out IMHO that the problem would not have been solved by just restarting Apache or Varnish. | 20:11 |
| paulproteus | So a careful eye was needed, at least. | 20:11 |
| nkinkade | It's still down as far as I can tell. | 20:11 |
| paulproteus | er, and I get the same error from curl | 20:12 |
| paulproteus | weird | 20:12 |
| nathany | paulproteus: what's 4.2.2.4? | 20:12 |
| nkinkade | printk: 2847 messages suppressed. | 20:12 |
| nkinkade | nf_conntrack: table full, dropping packet. | 20:12 |
| paulproteus | A Verizon DNS server that everyone knows the IP of. | 20:12 |
| nathany | nkinkade, paulproteus: seems to be up for me although super slow | 20:12 |
| paulproteus | For small values of everyone. | 20:12 |
| nathany | nkinkade: should i have gotten an email re: a5? | 20:12 |
| paulproteus | (now works for me again too) | 20:12 |
| paulproteus | Yeah, I think the DNS requests from a5 are timing out because its network queue is so long. | 20:13 |
| nkinkade | dmesg is full of "possible SYN flooding on port 80. Sending cookies." | 20:13 |
| paulproteus | A local caching DNS server *on* a5 would fix this. | 20:13 |
| nkinkade | And also the messages I posted a minute ago. | 20:13 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Ya | 20:13 |
| nathany | right, i saw that, it just implied that i would have seen it previously | 20:13 |
| paulproteus | I don't recall how to look into the length of the rxqueue and txqueue in Linux. | 20:14 |
| paulproteus | But I do believe that the curl error is directly related to the Varnish error. | 20:14 |
| paulproteus | (and both now work fine) | 20:14 |
| paulproteus | (I'm running curl on a5, to be clear) | 20:14 |
| paulproteus | But then again, why would Varnish rely on DNS when the default backend is named by IP? | 20:15 |
| nkinkade | Maybe a transient DNS issue caused a major backlog of connections. | 20:15 |
| paulproteus | 503 again | 20:16 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, How can I ask Varnish why it reports 503? (Should it just be restarted?) Also feel free to tell me you're looking into it and I shouldn't bother you with questions. | 20:17 |
| paulproteus | paulproteus@a5:~$ curl 127.0.0.1:8080 | 20:17 |
| paulproteus | curl: (7) couldn't connect to host | 20:17 |
| paulproteus | (no running apache...) | 20:17 |
| paulproteus | (a running apache exists now) | 20:18 |
| paulproteus | (And the site works fine) | 20:18 |
| paulproteus | But I should do things other than track a5's status.... | 20:18 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Apache had died? | 20:18 |
| paulproteus | Perhaps the autorestart scripts just kicked it? | 20:18 |
| paulproteus | When I wrote the curl error, "ps auxw | grep apache" listed no apache2 processes. | 20:19 |
| nkinkade | It seems that Apache is gone again. | 20:20 |
| paulproteus | You can see in 'ps' that the processes all have a start time of 14:18 (CST), AKA 2 minutes ago. | 20:20 |
| nkinkade | SYN_RECV: 252 | 20:20 |
| nkinkade | ESTABLISHED: 10578 | 20:20 |
| nkinkade | TIME_WAIT: 14595 | 20:20 |
| nkinkade | FIN_WAIT1: 698 | 20:20 |
| nkinkade | FIN_WAIT2: 1658 | 20:20 |
| nkinkade | Total unique connections: 18088 | 20:20 |
| nkinkade | Those were the stats just reported from little script. | 20:21 |
| nkinkade | 18K unique connections? | 20:21 |
| paulproteus | Still, why would Apache die? | 20:21 |
| paulproteus | Note this: | 20:21 |
| paulproteus | a5:~# tail -f /var/log/apache2/error.log | 20:21 |
| paulproteus | [Wed Feb 25 14:20:03 2009] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down | 20:21 |
| paulproteus | I think the autorestart scripts may be killing it? | 20:21 |
| paulproteus | They see slow Apache and think "restart it" rather than "wait for it", yes? | 20:21 |
| nkinkade | I just disabled the script. | 20:22 |
| paulproteus | no running apache | 20:22 |
| paulproteus | i'll restart it | 20:22 |
| paulproteus | now there's a running apache | 20:22 |
| paulproteus | And I'll keep "tail -f"ing the Apache2 error log. | 20:23 |
| paulproteus | Load average is 2.90 and falling | 20:24 |
| paulproteus | Perhaps due to the downtime, though | 20:24 |
| nkinkade | eth0 is pumping about about 1.2M/sec | 20:25 |
| paulproteus | Of what? Static files, mostly? | 20:25 |
| nkinkade | Just using iptraf, so I can't tell. | 20:25 |
| paulproteus | This is why I liked my old Apache performance analysis patch. | 20:25 |
| paulproteus | You could tell where the time went. | 20:25 |
| nkinkade | It's not terrible, but that's pretty busy. | 20:25 |
| paulproteus | If it's static files, my Athlon in 2001 could do that without breaking a sweat. | 20:25 |
| paulproteus | And load average is < 1. | 20:26 |
| nkinkade | Now it's down to it's normal 500K/sec | 20:26 |
| paulproteus | I guess I'll go back to other things? I think the restart script hurt us here rather than helped us, but maybe with a longer timeout period it would have been okay. | 20:27 |
| nkinkade | I have this sense that when any sort of problem arises that it causes a negative feedback cycle of backed up connections. | 20:27 |
| paulproteus | I have this sense that we need more data. | 20:27 |
| nkinkade | I'm talking generals, not specifics, with that comment. | 20:27 |
| paulproteus | And also it'd be great if we could temporarily disable just the dynamic parts of the site. | 20:27 |
| paulproteus | Yeah, I know, but I believe that a few specifics could fix the whole general problem. | 20:27 |
| paulproteus | If we could just switch off the dynamic parts of the site to weather load storms we'd be totally fine. | 20:28 |
| Bovinity | paulproteus: if one sets "Watch this page" on teamspace, does it email in the event of changes, or just highlights on the history page? | 20:28 |
| paulproteus | Bovinity, Just highlights, unless you configure a user pref iirc. | 20:28 |
| Bovinity | paulproteus: aha, indeed | 20:29 |
| paulproteus | (Whether or not the server *honors* that user pref is a LocalSettings.php option.) | 20:33 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, If nathany thinks it's a good use of time, maybe you and I can/should sit down sometime and think about how we can better-handle load storms? | 20:33 |
| paulproteus | "sit down" used lightly. | 20:33 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Also, you might like Splunk. | 20:34 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Sure. Something needs to be done. | 20:34 |
| paulproteus | I haven't used it but it looks very nice (for automated log analysis). | 20:34 |
| nkinkade | The kernel logs on a5 are packed to the gills with possible syn flood warnings and then nf_conntrack: table full, dropping packet errors. | 20:35 |
| paulproteus | Why are we even doing connection tracking in the kernel? | 20:35 |
| paulproteus | We're running a stateful firewall because...? | 20:35 |
| paulproteus | You can increase table size by adding line in /etc/sysctl.conf: | 20:36 |
| paulproteus | net.ipv4.netfilter.ip_conntrack_max=<size> ex. 16384 <http://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?id=17558> | 20:36 |
| paulproteus | But why does a5 need a stateful firewall in the first place? | 20:36 |
| paulproteus | Shorewall, I suppose. | 20:37 |
| paulproteus | I'm still of the opinion that's it's more trouble than it's worth. | 20:37 |
| paulproteus | But they're your servers, not mine, to make that decision on, so you might find some solace in increasing the conntrack table size. | 20:37 |
| paulproteus | I think that the firewall buys us nothing. | 20:38 |
| paulproteus | I'd be curious to hear your thoughts. | 20:39 |
| paulproteus | We both like making broad generalizations. Anyway, we can have this conversation another time. | 20:39 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, More pressing to me is the discussion above about hy and Pootle. | 20:40 |
| paulproteus | Maybe you can comment on that when you have a moment. | 20:41 |
| paulproteus | (or feel free to tell me I should email you instead) | 20:41 |
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| nkinkade | paulproteus: Yes, I added Armenian yesterday. You were copied on the email in which I stated that I had added it. | 20:43 |
| nkinkade | I didn't do anything special. I just went to Admin -> Languages and added the language. | 20:43 |
| nkinkade | Nothing more, nothing less. | 20:43 |
| * paulproteus nods | 20:43 | |
| paulproteus | That way is totally broken now that we have the svn stuff set up behind Pootle's back. | 20:43 |
| nkinkade | svn has always behind Pootle in our setup. | 20:44 |
| nkinkade | At least as long as I've been at CC. | 20:44 |
| paulproteus | Hmm, okay. | 20:44 |
| rejon1 | crap | 20:44 |
| nkinkade | (Pootle was installed not long after I arrived. | 20:44 |
| paulproteus | Well, now that we have *my* svn stuff set up behind Pootle's back, that's totally broken. | 20:44 |
| nkinkade | I'll just let you handle Pootle stuff in the future. | 20:45 |
| paulproteus | That sounds like new breakage on my part. Let me see what the docs say you should have done to see if I can say you should have followed them. (-; | 20:45 |
| paulproteus | Well, if the docs are up-to-date, there's no reason we need to have a bus factor of one. | 20:45 |
| paulproteus | And if the docs aren't, then we have a bus factor of ca. 0.9. | 20:45 |
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| paulproteus | nkinkade, tty at 2 about VNC, and after that I'll work out the Pootle documentation stuff | 20:55 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Yeah, let's look at VNC at 2. | 20:56 |
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| nkinkade | paulproteus: I'm giving a shot to your idea of just ditching netfilter/shorewall. On a5 I stopped shorewall and there are now no rules, but I'd like to remove the dozens of modules that it installed. | 21:19 |
| nkinkade | Can you think of any reason that I shouldn't remove them all? | 21:19 |
| nkinkade | I can unload them in the same order it loaded them. | 21:19 |
| nkinkade | I just wanted to be sure that nothing else needed those modules for any reason. | 21:20 |
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| Bovinity | nathany: http://blag.xkcd.com/2009/02/25/kindle-2/ | 21:30 |
| nkinkade | Re: the modules ... apparently they weren't needed by anything because I removed them all and things seem okay. | 21:43 |
| nathany | phew | 21:57 |
| nathany | ;) | 21:57 |
| nathany | Bovinity: so i "found" the CD Maxi single of "Love, etc"... the mixes aren't bad | 21:58 |
| Bovinity | "found" you say | 21:58 |
| nathany | it was just lying there! | 21:58 |
| paulproteus | nathany, Howdy | 22:02 |
| paulproteus | Er, I meant that for nkinkade, but you too! | 22:02 |
| nathany | gee thanks ;) | 22:02 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, If rmmod works, then the modules weren't in use. | 22:03 |
| Bovinity | http://www.prefixmag.com/media/pet-shop-boys/love-etc-video/26367/ | 22:03 |
| paulproteus | It's always safe to try it. | 22:03 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Let's talk VNC right now; I'll move to a conf. room. | 22:03 |
| nathany | Bovinity: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7TSDUHhPIw | 22:04 |
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| nkinkade | paulproteus: Shall we do a conference call?! | 22:04 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: What I had done with the modules was this: | 22:05 |
| nkinkade | # tac shorewall/modules | sed -e '/^#/d' | cut -d' ' -f 2 | xargs modprobe -q -r | 22:05 |
| nkinkade | There were dozens of modules in that file, and I wasn't 100% sure they were all *just* for shorewall/iptables. | 22:06 |
| nkinkade | But apparently they were, though there are still some iptables related modules installed. | 22:06 |
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| nkinkade | It seems that that might be normal, though, as I see them on rose.makesad.us too. | 22:06 |
| paulproteus | Cool. | 22:08 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Let's try Ekiga; you start it up and I'll start up mine. | 22:08 |
| paulproteus | You could read the list and stuff first... | 22:08 |
| paulproteus | I would do: | 22:08 |
| paulproteus | # tac shorewall/modules | sed -e '/^#/d' | cut -d' ' -f 2 | xargs echo modprobe -q -r | 22:08 |
| paulproteus | for a dry run first, but you can read the modules list anyway so that's not necessary probably. | 22:08 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: I had already reviewed the list manually with a xargs echo. | 22:08 |
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| paulproteus | Cool | 22:08 |
| nkinkade | There were just *so many* modules that it seemed ab-diculous. | 22:08 |
| nkinkade | Calling sip:paulproteus | 22:09 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Okay | 22:09 |
| nkinkade | Seems not to have worked. | 22:10 |
| paulproteus | I'll hang up on the echo test. | 22:10 |
| paulproteus | I can call 500@ just fine. | 22:10 |
| paulproteus | Want to join me in some ekiga.net conference? | 22:10 |
| nkinkade | I don't get a ringtone for you. | 22:10 |
| nkinkade | Let's try that. | 22:10 |
| paulproteus | First I'll try ringing you. | 22:10 |
| nkinkade | One sec. | 22:10 |
| nkinkade | It's using my skrs. instead of the headset! | 22:11 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Try that call again. | 22:11 |
| paulproteus | Okay. | 22:12 |
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| Bovinity | paulproteus: nathany: http://learn.creativecommons.org/community/For_Learners?useskin=ahab | 22:56 |
| nathany | Bovinity: i think my preference would be for two separate lines of links (page views v. toolbox) | 22:58 |
| nathany | perhaps we'd also add code to make the toolbox disappear if you're not logged in? | 22:58 |
| Bovinity | +1 for the latter | 22:58 |
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| paulproteus | In conclusion: VNC with "tight" encoding is way faster than the fruity DimDim thing. | 23:12 |
| nkinkade | I agree. And also in conclusion a 5 to 10 second delay in speaking is not conducive to effective communication. | 23:15 |
| Bovinity | DIM fail$ | 23:15 |
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| paulproteus | For some unknown reason I left the #cc channel. | 23:20 |
| paulproteus | Anyway, time to check on those Pootle docs. | 23:20 |
| johndoigiii | hey guys, quick q... if you see a bug and am able to fix it and commit, there should be no need to issue a bug in roundup right? | 23:23 |
| paulproteus | johndoigiii, Agreed, though if it's related to something one of us is working on it's good to let us know (unless you know we'll find it via a commit log email). | 23:23 |
| johndoigiii | oo ok, its just something small on CCnet | 23:24 |
| paulproteus | Cool. | 23:24 |
| johndoigiii | just wanted to make sure i wasn't breaking any process you guys might have established | 23:24 |
| paulproteus | Make sure you comply with what appears to be the branching process that that project uses. | 23:24 |
| johndoigiii | will do | 23:25 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, So I think the web interface to create a language in Pootle should not really be used. When adding languages to cc_org, can I have you just "svn copy" en_US's i18n/ and po/ files and then ssh to the pootle user and svn update and restart Pootle? | 23:25 |
| paulproteus | http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Translating_with_Pootle/Administration#Add_an_entirely_new_language is I think the process that fits in best with my new svn setup. | 23:25 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: That sounds good, and I've actually done that in the past. :-) | 23:26 |
| paulproteus | Ah, cool. (-: | 23:26 |
| nkinkade | But I never was sure whether that was necessary or if Pootle would do it all correctly. | 23:26 |
| paulproteus | I think that you not doing it that way is what broke the expectations of the post-commit hook, which broke commit. | 23:26 |
| paulproteus | By "I think that" I mean "". | 23:27 |
| * paulproteus nods | 23:27 | |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Do you want to re-do that language, or should I? | 23:31 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Since you are already in there, maybe you could go ahead? :-) | 23:34 |
| paulproteus | I'm not, but I can, sure. (-: | 23:34 |
| paulproteus | I'll handle it and test it and close that email exchange from earlier today. | 23:34 |
| paulproteus | And in the future, please do follow that. (-: | 23:35 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: do you recall ohw you got the back plate out of the office freezer? | 23:36 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: Did it freeze up again? | 23:37 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: yup | 23:37 |
| nkinkade | There are 4 or 6 little screws with a hex-head. | 23:38 |
| Bovinity | main fridge is nice and warm. | 23:38 |
| nkinkade | I don't think it was necessary to remove more than those. | 23:38 |
| nkinkade | However, it still didn't want to come off until some of the ice had melted already. | 23:38 |
| Bovinity | and the cover for two of the screws doesnt want to come out either | 23:42 |
| nathany | Bovinity: http://store.muledesign.com/3289059765_088439b51f_o.php | 23:54 |
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