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| primeone | hi | 03:32 |
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| primeone | anyone here awake | 03:32 |
| mlinksva__ | primeone: hi | 03:42 |
| primeone | hey | 03:43 |
| primeone | i got a creative commons license rights issue i must address in relation to my podcast .... any wise sages here who may possible have the knowledge to answer ? | 03:44 |
| mlinksva__ | maybe. what's the question? | 03:45 |
| primeone | I just started a podcast that is both audio and video with feeds in HD and SD. The podcast is a geek related one and i'm under the CC by-nc-sa my self. I plan on eventually getting advertisments into my podcast | 03:45 |
| primeone | now here is the rub I want to use fellow Creative commons music for the outros and intros of my audio show which is in Enhanced Chaptered AAC | 03:46 |
| mlinksva__ | the technical audio or video formats don't have any relevance | 03:46 |
| primeone | i can put a chapter cover at the end of the artists music i'm using for the intro and outro as well as a link that is clickable to their website or profile on what ever social media site they use | 03:46 |
| mlinksva__ | i'm not a lawyer, but it sounds like you could clearly use music licensed under CC BY | 03:47 |
| mlinksva__ | I see, yes, as long as you give credit | 03:47 |
| primeone | cool even if i'm making money off advertisments? | 03:47 |
| mlinksva__ | Plain CC BY is fine for commercial use | 03:47 |
| primeone | ok how do i go about in finding music that is licensed just by the CC BY | 03:48 |
| mlinksva__ | If you're using music under BY-NC or BY-NC-SA you have to consider whether your use is commercial | 03:48 |
| mlinksva__ | see some links at http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Commercial_music | 03:48 |
| mlinksva__ | unfortunately since you're releasing under BY-NC-SA you can't use BY-SA content, but that page is also good for pointers to just BY content | 03:49 |
| primeone | SA? | 03:50 |
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| mattl | primeone: just BY. | 03:51 |
| mattl | using BY-SA content means your project has to be BY-SA as well. | 03:51 |
| mlinksva__ | which is not a bad idea :) | 03:51 |
| greg-g | not a bad idea at all :) | 03:52 |
| mattl | NC is not cool, and it means no community ;) | 03:52 |
| primeone | I thought it means non-commerical, so someone just can take the work and make an Amen break style "Construction Kit" and have two different companies own the same thing then | 03:53 |
| mattl | NC prevents commercial use. | 03:53 |
| mattl | which i consider to be non-cool, and prevents a community.. | 03:54 |
| primeone | what about in cases whee someone wants to use your work for say a car commerical and well they attributed you that all they had to do and you don't get paid for the work? | 03:54 |
| mattl | then they have to release the car commercial as BY-SA. | 03:55 |
| mattl | which if they do, awesome... you have a car commercial that you can put on your next album. | 03:55 |
| mattl | and if they don't want to, well, then they can negotiate | 03:55 |
| primeone | hmmm | 03:55 |
| primeone | Ehhh ok BY-SA for me it is | 03:55 |
| mattl | also, http://wherearethejoneses.com/ is a BY-SA car commercial... Ford were well aware of what they were getting into, too. | 03:56 |
| mattl | primeone: yay. welcome to Free Culture. | 03:56 |
| greg-g | indeed. good choice. | 03:56 |
| primeone | yar yar free as in beer ... some way or another you pay for it in the end matti :D | 03:57 |
| mattl | primeone: no, free as in freedom. | 03:57 |
| primeone | i'm joking :D plus no freedom is free someone had to put good time and effort into giving us that freedom | 03:57 |
| mattl | primeone: let me know when your BY-SA show is up, i'll promote it on my blog :) | 03:58 |
| primeone | cool I will be as soon as i update my website | 03:58 |
| mattl | nice. | 03:58 |
| primeone | yea i just had this interview with veronica belmont for my podcast and i found this wicked chiptune song i wanted to use by this kid named GBME | 03:59 |
| mlinksva__ | woohoo | 03:59 |
| primeone | thats why i was asking about the license stuff | 04:00 |
| mlinksva__ | goodnight. good to meet you primeone. later mattl and greg-g | 04:00 |
| greg-g | later mlinksva__ | 04:00 |
| primeone | later mlinksva | 04:00 |
| primeone | oh my podcast is plan8ts.com | 04:00 |
| primeone | THe Plan8 Podcast | 04:00 |
| primeone | searchable on itunes ... if i get them to fix the error link i Fraked up | 04:01 |
| mattl | cya mlinksva__ | 04:01 |
| mattl | primeone: if you want to make me *really* like your podcast, you could say GNU/Linux instead of just Linux | 04:01 |
| mattl | but plan8 = planet? | 04:02 |
| primeone | blahhh I know richard stallmen ... he has incured my wrath a few time ... i like my Linux using the GNU toolkit just find just like using Mac OS X and the GNU tool kit too | 04:03 |
| primeone | the closest you will get me to say the one you mentioned is "Linux with use of the GNU toolkit" | 04:03 |
| mattl | GNU's not just a toolkit though. | 04:04 |
| mattl | What makes a Unix OS? At the most basic level, you have a shell, a C library, a set of core utilities, and a kernel... GNU has all of those. | 04:05 |
| primeone | matti ... philosphical debate i wish not to get into is that ok? | 04:05 |
| mattl | But the GNU kernel lacks hardware drivers and is pretty unstable. So, swap out the kernel, and replace with Linux... that's why GNU/Linux :) | 04:05 |
| primeone | again ... Philosophical debate ... do not want to fully go into .... :D | 04:06 |
| mattl | it's not a philosophical debate, it's a stated fact. | 04:07 |
| greg-g | ahem, so, about that CC:BY-SA license ;) | 04:08 |
| primeone | some would say that about certain relgious beliefs too that they are stated facts | 04:08 |
| primeone | again ... Philosophical debate ... do not want to fully go into .... :D | 04:08 |
| mattl | meh. fail. | 04:09 |
| greg-g | mattl: lets not get greedy, he's already using BY-SA ;) | 04:09 |
| mattl | yeah, but i can't link to something that says "Linux" ;) | 04:10 |
| primeone | fail on the fact you seem to not respect i have a different view point then you matti and that mine is peppered from experiences with the founders of the project | 04:10 |
| greg-g | mattl: heh. | 04:10 |
| greg-g | ok, lets stop that discussion now, or move it out of #CC | 04:10 |
| * primeone walks out of the bar :D | 04:10 | |
| greg-g | heh | 04:10 |
| primeone | nerd kombat! | 04:11 |
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| primeone | hehehe | 04:11 |
| primeone | ahhh man | 04:11 |
| greg-g | primeone: but yeah, if you have any more CC questions, don't hesitate to come back and ask | 04:12 |
| greg-g | I'll be around but not paying close attention righ tnow | 04:12 |
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| mattl | okay. dev image installed. | 04:20 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: I'm upgrading a6, so for the moment don't worry about notifications. | 17:05 |
| nkinkade | I guess I should disable notifications while I upgrade. | 17:05 |
| nathany | ok | 17:05 |
| nkinkade | I'll do that for the next. | 17:05 |
| nathany | so the cclearn website is still down | 17:11 |
| nathany | we should figure out how to minimize the downtime, especially when doing the cc.org upgrade | 17:12 |
| nathany | nkinkade: ^^ | 17:12 |
| nkinkade | nathany: It's back up. | 17:13 |
| nkinkade | I don't know exactly why MySQL was down for a bit, but sometime after running aptitude upgrade and when it completed MySQL apparently had some issue. | 17:14 |
| nkinkade | I don't know that there is much we can do about that. | 17:14 |
| nathany | did it come back up on it's own or did we have to restart it? | 17:20 |
| nkinkade | nathany: It came back up on it's own sometime while aptitude was doing the upgrade. | 17:22 |
| nathany | ah, ok | 17:24 |
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| nathany | nkinkade: can you let me know when a6 is done so i can make sure tomcat came back up ok? | 17:34 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Will do. | 17:34 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Did you make any changes to the tomcat init script? | 17:35 |
| nathany | the init script? | 17:36 |
| nathany | i don't think so | 17:36 |
| nkinkade | There's a diff. between the maintainers version and what we have. | 17:36 |
| nkinkade | I'll just install the maintainer's version. | 17:36 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: a6 is updated and running again. discovered seems to be down, but I noted a small change to one of the configs that you added that I'll replace. | 18:03 |
| nkinkade | permission java.security.AllPermission; | 18:03 |
| nkinkade | I assume that needs to be put back in. | 18:03 |
| nathany | yes | 18:04 |
| nkinkade | Adding that line again seems to have fixed it. | 18:05 |
| nkinkade | In the cases where there were many changes to a config file for the new maintainer's version and we have only 1 or 2 local changes, I installed the maintainer's version, and then went back in and re-added our local changes. | 18:06 |
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| Bovinity | paulproteus: ping | 18:26 |
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| Bovinity | http://twitter.com/sockington/statuses/1219930918 | 19:04 |
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| paulproteus | Bovinity, pong | 20:41 |
| Bovinity | paulproteus: nvm, will ping about opened again at the end of the week | 21:05 |
| paulproteus | Okay, cool. | 21:06 |
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| paulproteus | nathany, http://solutoire.com/flotr/ | 21:16 |
| nathany | Bovinity: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAyA9p_VH7s&feature=channel_page | 21:30 |
| nathany | see also: http://www.youtube.com/user/SummerHeightsHigh | 21:30 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: Just a quick reminded to double-check a6 and tomcat. | 21:59 |
| nathany | nkinkade: thanks; it seems to be up | 21:59 |
| nkinkade | The interface comes up but searching doesn't seem quite right, but I don't know how it was before. | 21:59 |
| nathany | oh | 21:59 |
| nathany | ok | 21:59 |
| nathany | oh, it has the database password hardcoded | 22:00 |
| * nathany blushes | 22:00 | |
| nathany | thanks for the reminder | 22:01 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Having fun on a6 now it's Lenny? | 22:02 |
| nkinkade | :-) | 22:02 |
| paulproteus | (-: | 22:03 |
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| nkinkade | There are several firetrucks and an ambulance in front of my building and they just dragged a firehose somewhere into the bottom of the building. | 22:24 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: Other than looking in the database, is there a way for me to see who has a CC Network account? | 23:46 |
| nkinkade | Or to find out if an invite was sent? | 23:47 |
| nathany | you can use the web interface | 23:47 |
| nathany | at /admin | 23:47 |
| nkinkade | Do I have admin rights? :-) | 23:47 |
| nkinkade | Apparently so. Thanks. | 23:48 |
| nkinkade | nathany: A person either lost their invite or never received it for some reason. invite.sh doesn't seen to send a new one in this case. What's the best way to handle this? | 23:55 |
| nathany | ./bin/welcome | 23:56 |
| nathany | ./bin/welcome name@example.com | 23:56 |
| nathany | that is | 23:56 |
| nkinkade | Ah. Sorry. I forgot and was using invite.sh | 23:56 |
| nathany | np | 23:57 |
| nkinkade | whatever that script does.. :-) | 23:57 |
| nathany | it adds new users and sends the invite -- probably poorly named :) | 23:57 |
| nathany | er, | 23:58 |
| nathany | oh, it links civicrm with cc.net | 23:58 |
| nathany | (i was thinking of register, which is actually well named :) ) | 23:58 |
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