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| lolkatz | hello | 17:02 |
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| lolkatz | what is this? | 17:03 |
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| paulproteus | Aww, bye lolkatz. | 17:04 |
| paulproteus | That's a good name, though. | 17:04 |
| paulproteus | If I knew anyone named Katz it would be even funnier. | 17:04 |
| nkinkade | nathany: I'm planning to move the main Nagios monitoring from a7 to a9 ... any thoughts on that? | 17:04 |
| nathany | nkinkade: none beyond why | 17:05 |
| nathany | load? | 17:05 |
| paulproteus | (-: | 17:05 |
| nkinkade | That second spate of messages last night was probably related to a7 getting a bit busy and then Nagios's monitoring requests timing out due to network load. | 17:06 |
| nkinkade | At least that was my take. | 17:06 |
| nathany | ah | 17:06 |
| nkinkade | It was reporting as down services on all sorts of machine, services that had no problems at all. | 17:06 |
| nathany | right | 17:06 |
| nkinkade | Seems like the monitoring would be better on a less loaded machine. | 17:06 |
| nathany | yeah, i'm fine with that | 17:07 |
| nkinkade | I could also do a6. | 17:07 |
| nathany | i wonder if we should do a cheap linode or something for this sort of thing | 17:07 |
| nkinkade | But I'm not sure how we are handling that box vis a vis ccLearn. | 17:07 |
| nathany | where we can run monitoring, cron, etc | 17:07 |
| nathany | a6 would probably be fine, too | 17:07 |
| nathany | it's on a7 and .... what? now | 17:07 |
| nkinkade | I'm not familiar with linodes. | 17:07 |
| paulproteus | They're relatively inexpensive Xen guests. | 17:08 |
| paulproteus | And relatively well-supported ones too. | 17:08 |
| nkinkade | Where can they be hosted? | 17:08 |
| paulproteus | linode.com | 17:08 |
| nkinkade | Duh. | 17:08 |
| nkinkade | ;-) | 17:08 |
| nathany | :) | 17:08 |
| nkinkade | nathany: paulproteus: that might not be a bad idea, then. | 17:08 |
| nkinkade | It seems rather error prone to have our servers monitor themselves more or less. | 17:09 |
| nathany | right | 17:09 |
| paulproteus | Plus we could have that Linode run our batch jobs. | 17:09 |
| paulproteus | s/our/my/ (-: | 17:09 |
| nathany | [assuming our batch jobs fall in the resource constraints] | 17:09 |
| nathany | ;) | 17:09 |
| nkinkade | Shall I look into the details of a linode setup for Nagions, then? | 17:09 |
| nkinkade | (Nagios) | 17:10 |
| nathany | yeah, i can go ahead and provision it | 17:10 |
| nkinkade | nathany: The linodes are pretty cheap. | 17:11 |
| nathany | yeah | 17:11 |
| nkinkade | This will be a good alternative to outsourcing our monitoring | 17:11 |
| nkinkade | ... which is ridiculously expensive. | 17:11 |
| nkinkade | nathany: I think the Linode 360 would be more than adequate, overkill even, but it's their minimum offering. | 17:12 |
| nathany | that's what i'm getting :) | 17:13 |
| nathany | nkinkade: you can sign in at https://www.linode.com/members/ | 17:14 |
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| Bovinity | mecredis: shouldn't the Colbert blog post be for "Colbert Report", or is larry only appearing on the website instead of the show? | 18:34 |
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| paulproteus | nathany, Did you know about http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/pootle/alternative_source_language ? | 19:36 |
| paulproteus | You must have, but this is the first I've learned about it. | 19:37 |
| paulproteus | (I'm adding it to our docs.) | 19:37 |
| nathany | why must i have? | 19:37 |
| nathany | it's new in 1.2 | 19:37 |
| paulproteus | I... don't know, I have a good impression of you? (-; | 19:37 |
| nathany | (which we weren't using before) | 19:37 |
| paulproteus | Oh, okay. | 19:37 |
| nathany | it *was* one of my bitches re: pootle :) | 19:37 |
| paulproteus | I know! | 19:38 |
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| paulproteus | Anyone want to try Rotee-brand curry-in-a-hurry? <http://www.yelp.com/biz/rotee-express-san-francisco> | 20:06 |
| paulproteus | Hmm, it seems to be less cheap. | 20:07 |
| paulproteus | Though it comes with naan maybe. | 20:09 |
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| mecredis_ | Bovinity, there? | 20:44 |
| Bovinity | mecredis_: yo | 21:18 |
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| mecredis_ | hey there | 21:29 |
| mecredis_ | just wanted to ping you about the arts enginve video | 21:29 |
| mecredis_ | on /videos/ | 21:29 |
| mecredis_ | were you planning on migrating the original page to that | 21:29 |
| mecredis_ | or ? | 21:29 |
| Bovinity | umm, where is it now? | 21:30 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade did the /videos/ work so far | 21:30 |
| mecredis_ | ah | 21:30 |
| mecredis_ | http://creativecommons.org/media-that-matters-video is the one I made | 21:30 |
| mecredis_ | figured it should be linked to from /videos/ | 21:30 |
| Bovinity | did you get my earlier "colbert nation" vs "colbert report" query? | 21:30 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: As far as I know they work. | 21:31 |
| nkinkade | Did you find a broken one? | 21:31 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: ^^ one got missed ;) | 21:31 |
| mecredis_ | Bovinity, nope, switched machines | 21:32 |
| nkinkade | Hmmm. I would have sworn to you that I did the media-that-matters one. | 21:32 |
| mecredis_ | I think Colbert switched | 21:32 |
| mecredis_ | err, changed names | 21:32 |
| mecredis_ | if that was your question | 21:32 |
| Bovinity | mecredis_: the show is still Report.. but hte blog post refers to it as Nataion, which is just the website. but i wasnt sure if that was on purpose, like larry is only appearing on the website | 21:32 |
| nkinkade | mecredis: Bovinity: This one: http://creativecommons.org/videos/media-that-matters | 21:32 |
| nkinkade | Is that not it? | 21:32 |
| mecredis_ | oh | 21:33 |
| mecredis_ | hah | 21:33 |
| mecredis_ | no | 21:33 |
| mecredis_ | that is confusing | 21:33 |
| nkinkade | There is a thumbnail on the front page too. | 21:33 |
| nkinkade | http://creativecommons.org/videos/ | 21:33 |
| nkinkade | I'll add the other data that I missed now. | 21:33 |
| mecredis_ | nkinkade, http://creativecommons.org/videos/media-that-matters should contain http://creativecommons.org/media-that-matters-video | 21:33 |
| mecredis_ | ah cool | 21:34 |
| mecredis_ | thanks | 21:34 |
| nkinkade | That was just an oversight. | 21:34 |
| mecredis_ | Bovinity, not sure its worth changing | 21:34 |
| mecredis_ | yah, no rush | 21:34 |
| nkinkade | But I don't like having it in two places. | 21:34 |
| mecredis_ | feel free to do a redirect | 21:34 |
| mecredis_ | if that makes you feel any better | 21:34 |
| mecredis_ | :/ | 21:34 |
| nkinkade | Yeah, I just hate adding yet another rewrite rule. | 21:34 |
| nkinkade | Oh well. If 300 are good, then 301 can't be any worse. | 21:34 |
| mecredis_ | haha | 21:35 |
| mecredis_ | CONSOLIDATE YOUR REWRITE DEBT | 21:35 |
| mecredis_ | ACT NOW | 21:35 |
| nkinkade | There aren't really 300, but it *feels* like it. | 21:35 |
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| paulproteus | nathany, Let me know when you want to do that sync-up. | 21:41 |
| paulproteus | (Any time before one of us leaves is fine.) | 21:41 |
| nkinkade | mecredis: Is this better? http://creativecommons.org/videos/media-that-matters | 21:42 |
| paulproteus | rewrites-that-matter | 21:44 |
| nkinkade | mecredis: Bovinity: That link now redirects to the /videos/ version, I also added a redirect for /asharedculture -> /videos/a-shared-culture | 21:50 |
| nkinkade | mecredis: Were there any other videos floating around, or just those 2? | 21:50 |
| nkinkade | In fact, I just delete the original 2 pages to avoid confusion. | 21:52 |
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| paulproteus | nathany, http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Translating_with_Pootle says: "If you have questions about using Pootle or about the translation process, you can ask in the IRC channel, or on the cctools-i18n mailing list." | 22:43 |
| paulproteus | cctools-i18n is on Berlios and has no posts in the past ca. 2y. Maybe we should use webmaster@ for questions, and Issues for bugs? | 22:44 |
| paulproteus | I'm replacing it with: "If you have questions about using Pootle or about the translation process, you can ask in the [[IRC|IRC channel]], or by sending an email to webmaster@creativecommons.org. If you are an international affiliate on the CCi mailing list, you can use that instead." | 22:45 |
| nathany | paulproteus: great | 22:47 |
| nathany | nkinkade: where does staging the civicrm upgrade fit in your schedule at the moment? | 22:50 |
| nathany | we're on 2.0 now, right? | 22:51 |
| * paulproteus owes nkinkade a fix over some Drupal CVS-git stuff | 22:51 | |
| nkinkade | nathany: We are currently 2.0.3. | 22:51 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Where would you like for it to fit into my schedule is the question. :-) | 22:52 |
| nathany | well looking at our IM conversation from Monday I had it towards the top of a roughly ordered list | 22:53 |
| nathany | i'm thinking we need to be able to rationally evaluate what to build (and what to build it on), so earlier is better | 22:53 |
| nathany | am i crazy to think that staging with the 2.2 alpha is a good idea, with a target of deploying when it's released? | 22:53 |
| nkinkade | nathany: What's the target date on that? | 22:54 |
| nathany | the civicrm page says feb 18 | 22:54 |
| nathany | http://wiki.civicrm.org/confluence/display/CRM/CiviCRM+v2.2 | 22:54 |
| nathany | although it looks like upgrades may still be rocky | 22:54 |
| nathany | http://issues.civicrm.org/jira/browse/CRM-3894 | 22:54 |
| nathany | (at the moment) | 22:54 |
| nkinkade | Whoa, they are replacing Amavis with some PHP based option, which excites me. | 22:55 |
| paulproteus | Hah. | 22:56 |
| nathany | :) | 22:56 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Looking it over, you idea may be a good course of action. | 23:07 |
| nkinkade | Just bite the bullet and go to 2.2 directly, if possible. | 23:07 |
| nkinkade | However, I know for past version you had to upgrade the database incrementally. | 23:08 |
| nkinkade | There is a side of me that would like to upgrade to stable (2.1.x), get it running nicely and then the next upgrade would only be a single version upgrade instead of battling (possible) to get it directly to 2.2. | 23:09 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Will you have time tomorrow or early next week to get the Druapl cvs2git stuff working again? | 23:10 |
| paulproteus | Tomorrow or early next week, yeah. | 23:11 |
| paulproteus | It's doing something kind of like syncing, but not quite enough like it to be useful. | 23:11 |
| nkinkade | And the stuff for CiviCRM is working fine? | 23:12 |
| paulproteus | I'm pretty sure, yeah. | 23:12 |
| paulproteus | Let me double-check. | 23:12 |
| paulproteus | Yeah, http://code.creativecommons.org/viewgit?p=civicrm.git;a=summary has commits. | 23:12 |
| paulproteus | Even new branches. | 23:13 |
| paulproteus | git-svn works reliably, but there's something fruity going on with the CVS stuff. | 23:13 |
| paulproteus | paulproteus@sf:~ $ telnet code 80 | 23:14 |
| paulproteus | Trying 64.34.161.33... | 23:14 |
| paulproteus | telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: No route to host | 23:14 |
| paulproteus | Er. | 23:14 |
| paulproteus | Never mind. | 23:15 |
| paulproteus | Maybe I was stepping on my own network cable or something, but it works now. | 23:15 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, I'm curious if the I/O limits also apply to our swap partition. | 23:15 |
| nathany | nkinkade: so i'd actually be fine with doing it incrementally | 23:16 |
| paulproteus | In a way, it seems cruel for them to do that; but if they don't, then we could put whatever we wanted there and access it however much we want... | 23:16 |
| nathany | if nothing else i'd like to get upgraded on production to 2.1 as soon as possible so that if MK/AD do training they're using the latest release | 23:16 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Ignore anything I've been saying about I/O. | 23:17 |
| nkinkade | nathany: It may be that they will support a direct 2.0.x -> 2.2.x upgrade path, but I don't think they did in the past without having to upgrade the database incrementally. 2.2 is due out in about 1.5 months, and I think we can get some experience with 2.1 in that time. | 23:21 |
| nkinkade | If it was due out in just 2 weeks or so I'd say go with 2.2 right away if possible. | 23:21 |
| nathany | excellent | 23:22 |
| nathany | makes sense to me | 23:22 |
| nkinkade | I'll set it as a high priority. | 23:22 |
| paulproteus | paulproteus@nagios:~$ dmesg | grep bugs | 23:23 |
| paulproteus | All bugs added by David S. Miller <davem@redhat.com> | 23:23 |
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